I love it when liberals claim homosexuality was historically accepted

Big Money said:
Plutarch also describes the relationships as chaste and states that it was just as unthinkable for a lover to have sex with his beloved as it was for a father and son.


Aelian relates that in Sparta, for a man not to have a youth for a student was considered a deficiency in character, and he could even be punished for it. But Aelian also says that if any couple indulged in carnal relations, they would have to redeem the affront to the honor of Sparta by either going into exile or taking their own lives.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty_in_ancient_Greece#Sparta
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_the_militaries_of_ancient_Greece
 
Socrtease said:
Interracial and interreligious marriages were also not traditionally accepted. That matters not in the least. Just because bigotry was accepted in the past does not mean it is right.
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Note; this kid doesn't know the definition of Bigotry.
 
Big Money said:
Do you ask liberals that question when they refer to ancient practices like pederasty, Counselor?
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You don't know the definition of "Liberal".

"Liberal" isn't a party like the small brains try to paint it. "Liberal" simply means " a lot".

So when our Government used law to prevent gays from getting married, that was considered Liberal Government. People using Christianity to restrict the rights of other Religions. The Bible says not to judge gays. "don't throw stones". Let god do the judging. Accept them and try to lead by example, not through force.
 
In the "historically accepted" debate I call on curse words. Who decided which words were bad when they all have a secondary meaning that aren't bad. Shit means poop, yet we can say poop but not shit. The Bible is the general default on this topic but it only says "do not use profanity" which means "shucky derns" is a sin.

America is full of Conformist ideas. The people generally decide what is accepted and what is not. This isn't all bad because God doesn't exactly show up, he uses people to send his message.

Well I am a person that read the Bible and noticed that it isn't my job to judge gays. I shouldn't and don't condone them..But it isn't my job to use US Law to prevent them from marrage. I don't think any Christian should be forced into marrying a gay couple.

God never told any Christian to spend their time fixing other Christians mistakes. WE ALL have our mistakes and need to fix ourselves and lead by example. Not through Liberal Government Force...........Get it?
 
Anti-Party said:
In the "historically accepted" debate I call on curse words. Who decided which words were bad when they all have a secondary meaning that aren't bad. Shit means poop, yet we can say poop but not shit. The Bible is the general default on this topic but it only says "do not use profanity" which means "shucky derns" is a sin.

America is full of Conformist ideas. The people generally decide what is accepted and what is not. This isn't all bad because God doesn't exactly show up, he uses people to send his message.

Well I am a person that read the Bible and noticed that it isn't my job to judge gays. I shouldn't and don't condone them..But it isn't my job to use US Law to prevent them from marrage. I don't think any Christian should be forced into marrying a gay couple.

God never told any Christian to spend their time fixing other Christians mistakes. WE ALL have our mistakes and need to fix ourselves and lead by example. Not through Liberal Government Force...........Get it?
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I wish the Social Conservatives would understand your philosophy.
 
Those if you on the left are going to have to realize that a lot of Christians are not going to accept your definition of marriage. Live and let live.
 
Ishmael Pequod said:
Those if you on the left are going to have to realize that a lot of Christians are not going to accept your definition of marriage. Live and let live.
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I don't expect them to accept it, but at the same time, they can not make laws based on their primitive beliefs.
 
Ishmael Pequod said:
Those if you on the left are going to have to realize that a lot of Christians are not going to accept your definition of marriage. Live and let live.
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They don't have to accept it, they don't have to perform the wedding, they don't have to marry a person of the same sex. They simply should not fight to prevent others from having the right to decide for themselves.
 
Ishmael Pequod said:
Those if you on the left are going to have to realize that a lot of Christians are not going to accept your definition of marriage. Live and let live.
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Big whoop.

They don't have to accept it...seems that's THEIR problem, not mine.

Back in the day a lot of "flat-earthers" didn't accept the world was round, their pig-headed refusal to accept the truth didn't change the fact they were WRONG.

All they have to do is stop pretending heterosexuals have some sort of copyright on the word marriage and can tell everyone else who can and can't use the word.
 
Jarod said:
They don't have to accept it, they don't have to perform the wedding, they don't have to marry a person of the same sex. They simply should not fight to prevent others from having the right to decide for themselves.
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But you have no problem finding a corrupt judge to force servitude by baking a cake.which is unconstitutional. Now pretending you have no clue what I'm talking about.
 
ZappasGuitar said:
Big whoop.

They don't have to accept it...seems that's THEIR problem, not mine.

Back in the day a lot of "flat-earthers" didn't accept the world was round, their pig-headed refusal to accept the truth didn't change the fact they were WRONG.

All they have to do is stop pretending heterosexuals have some sort of copyright on the word marriage and can tell everyone else who can and can't use the word.
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Sticking a dick up your stinky ass isn't "marriage", and I'm not baking your damn cake.
 
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