I hope the Russiaphobes are happy now

Darth Omar said:
Ok, so let's take Assad out to prevent Russian hegemony. How'd it go the last three times[!] we directly or indirectly overturned a secular Middle East leader?

Why would you think this time would be different and/or with a different result?

If you don't have a good answer, you shouldn't be allowed to comment on it.
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Jarod dismays me at times, he is so wedded to the HillBillies that it clouds his judgment immensely.
 
Darth Omar said:
Russocentric foreign policy. Everything pivots around Russia lol.

And they make fun of Trump's policy.
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it's convenient for the Dems, it's part of "the resistance" nothing principled about it.
Deep State is happy, and Fake News get to continue it's war with Trump
 
noise said:
I think the ceasefire will expand a little more along the south, it's been almost a month now.
Iran is calling for a nationwide ceasefire.

The sad thing is if we could really deal /Putin I'm sure we could come to an agreement to leave Assad in power at least thru negotiations, while both agreeing he has to go long term.

Then peace talks would have a real political framework, and we might just be able to end this thing
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That all would have a decent chance but for the regime-change addicts and Russiaphobes.
 
Darth Omar said:
That all would have a decent chance but for the regime-change addicts and Russiaphobes.
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The Russiaphobes are the enemies of peace.
It's purely about punishing Putin-- damn the chances in Syria, or even looking to deal in the Ukraine

"For the West, the demonization of Vladimir Putin is not a policy; it is an alibi for the absence of one." (Kissinger)
 
Darth Omar said:
Ok, so let's take Assad out to prevent Russian hegemony. How'd it go the last three times[!] we directly or indirectly overturned a secular Middle East leader?

Why would you think this time would be different and/or with a different result?

If you don't have a good answer, you shouldn't be allowed to comment on it.
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This is America, everyone's allowed to comment on anything, even Rump supporters.

I did not suggest taking Assad out, I would be against that. I am however, opposed to letting Russia take over.
 
noise said:
Russiaphobia is reason enough for these dolts :palm:
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Dolts? :0) Don't look now sir, but you're losing this fight BADLY.

Trump's own administration is admitting Russian interference .. while you keep saying it ain't so.

You've already lost this war, and the only question left is how deep does the rabbit hole go.

You've been claiming 'it ain't so' since this began .. and you've already lost.
 
noise said:
it's convenient for the Dems, it's part of "the resistance" nothing principled about it.
Deep State is happy, and Fake News get to continue it's war with Trump
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Nothing at all 'principled' about your stance brother. You take that stance because Trump told you to .. but you have no history of Putin-love before Trump.

.. and yes, the resistance is principled.
 
blackascoal said:
Nothing at all 'principled' about your stance brother. You take that stance because Trump told you to .. but you have no history of Putin-love before Trump.

.. and yes, the resistance is principled.
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. I've told you I've re-examined EVERYTHING after the annexation.
++
1.ABM systems for Iran ( who has no ballistic missiles) in Romania and now Poland?
2.NATO expansion to punish Russia despite our saying we would not do it after German re-unification
3.Meddling in the Uk Euromaiden for 1 purpose -to separate Putin's deals in favor of our's
( a violation of the BUdapset memorandum)
4. opposition to mindless Cold War 2
etc
here..feel free to educate yourself :

Ukraine / Cold War 2 and the path forward not taken
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ine-Cold-War-2-and-the-path-forward-not-taken
 
Darth Omar said:
WASHINGTON/MOSCOW (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump will sign legislation that imposes sanctions on Russia, the White House said on Friday, after Moscow ordered the United States to cut hundreds of diplomatic staff and said it would seize two U.S. diplomatic properties in retaliation for the bill.

The U.S. Senate had voted almost unanimously on Thursday to slap new sanctions on Russia, forcing Trump to choose between a tough position on Moscow and effectively dashing his stated hopes for warmer ties with the country or to veto the bill amid investigations in possible collusion between his campaign and Russia.

The Russian Foreign Ministry complained of growing anti-Russian feeling in the United States, accusing "well-known circles" of seeking "open confrontation".

President Vladimir Putin had warned on Thursday that Russia would have to retaliate against what he called boorish U.S. behavior. Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, told reporters on Friday that the Senate vote was the last straw.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-diplomats-idUSKBN1AD1DV
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Like it isn't bad enough NK is claiming they can now reach the continental US with an ICBM, now the anti-Trump left have teamed up with such neocons as John McCain to further sour relations with Moscow and start Cold War 2.0.

Using 'possible collusion' as leverage against Trump.

This is unfettered bullshit.
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"The U.S. Senate had voted almost unanimously on Thursday to slap new sanctions on Russia..."

So it's not just the Democrats who are Russiaphobes, huh.
 
noise said:
. I've told you I've re-examined EVERYTHING after the annexation.
++
1.ABM systems for Iran ( who has no ballistic missiles) in Romania and now Poland?
2.NATO expansion to punish Russia despite our saying we would not do it after German re-unification
3.Meddling in the Uk Euromaiden for 1 purpose -to separate Putin's deals in favor of our's
( a violation of the BUdapset memorandum)
4. opposition to mindless Cold War 2
etc
here..feel free to educate yourself :

Ukraine / Cold War 2 and the path forward not taken
https://www.justplainpolitics.com/s...ine-Cold-War-2-and-the-path-forward-not-taken
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The agony of defeat.

I feel you.
 
Darth Omar said:
I'd say you and Joe have [had] about equal evidence for your respective conspiracy theories lol.

And no, consensus opinion doesn't count as evidence. Not heresay, innuendo, junk dossiers, but direct evidence.
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McCarthy may not have had the evidence, but the documents recovered after the Soviet Union collapsed showed that he was correct.
 
christiefan915 said:
"The U.S. Senate had voted almost unanimously on Thursday to slap new sanctions on Russia..."

So it's not just the Democrats who are Russiaphobes, huh.
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This must be their end game.

They no longer try to claim it was a fat loser sitting in bed hacking the DNC.

The no longer deny the Kremlin was aiding the Trump campaign to defeat Clinton.

All they have now is some blather about how we need to stop being mean to Putin, how the Kremlin is really our friends, and so what if the Kremlin meddled in an American election?

I mean, you can literally see the goal posts moving in real time by these uber-partisan traitors to the nation
 
noise said:
what was that Jethro Tull line?

"I may make you feel but I can't make you think"

think good brother,, read the article. expose your mind to something more then the Swamp
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:0) Please stop. I am not at all interested in your propaganda.

you've LOST.
 
Cypress said:
This must be their end game.

They no longer try to claim it was a fat loser sitting in bed hacking the DNC.

The no longer deny the Kremlin was aiding the Trump campaign to defeat Clinton.

All they have now is some blather about how we need to stop being mean to Putin, how the Kremlin is really our friends, and so what if the Kremlin meddled in an American election?

I mean, you can literally see the goal posts moving in real time by these uber-partisan traitors to the nation
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^ grotesque misunderstanding of realpolitik in favor of 'kicking the dog' analysis
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"How I'm stuck on sanctions because I can't parrot anything else due to Russiaphobic infections"
 
blackascoal said:
:0) Please stop. I am not at all interested in your propaganda.

you've LOST.
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not "propaganda"
it's a well written piece documenting the failure of Obama's mono-polarism
I have lost nothing.
My principles and reasoning remain intact-looking beyond the narrow Swamp critters reactionary bleating

Enjoy your Russian boogeyman, there is plenty more MIC insanity to follow
 
Cypress said:
This must be their end game.

They no longer try to claim it was a fat loser sitting in bed hacking the DNC.

The no longer deny the Kremlin was aiding the Trump campaign to defeat Clinton.

All they have now is some blather about how we need to stop being mean to Putin, how the Kremlin is really our friends, and so what if the Kremlin meddled in an American election?

I mean, you can literally see the goal posts moving in real time by these uber-partisan traitors to the nation
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McCarthyism is the practice of making accusations of subversion or treason without proper regard for evidence. [Wiki definition]

You and your fellow travelers can consider yourselves busted.
 
noise said:
not "propaganda"
it's a well written piece documenting the failure of Obama's mono-polarism
I have lost nothing.
My principles and reasoning remain intact-looking beyond the narrow Swamp

Enjoy your Russian boogeyman, there is plenty more MIC insanity to follow
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You LOST this argument long ago.

Your research failed you.

I have no doubt the piece you posted is nothing but propaganda .. not interested.

Yes, indeed I'm savoring this.

.. real tasty.
 
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