i have heard that some blacks call other blacks that think like white folk...

[Disillusioned]

Being Irish, I had no ideas that blacks thought as a single entity. I mean, we Irish haven't evolved to do that.

We're not that clever and dont get along nearly as well.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Question there Dixie .. Do you have a confedrate flag hanging in/on your house .. on your pickup?

Nope. I do actually have an old confederate flag from the Civil War though. Along with several other artifacts. But you see, I don't view Civil War history the same as you. To me, it isn't about "racism" at all, it never was. The CW didn't happen because some people were racists and some weren't. You can believe this if you like, but the fact is, most people in 1860s America, were somewhat racist. And that went for people in the North and South, all over America. Post Civil War, the flag became a symbol of racist people, but that is a perversion of the history. I had two great ancestors who fought and died fighting for their homes and land, they never owned a slave or knew anyone who did. Ironically enough, as fate would have it, following the emancipation of the slaves, the freed slaves (many) were given 40 acres and a mule, and allowed to sharecrop. During the Great Depression, my Grandmother supported 8 children by picking cotton for a black sharecropper, the son of a former slave. If not for his giving her a job, our family tree would have vanished, and I wouldn't be here right now.

I have always felt it important to teach the true history of the Civil War era, and that includes dealing with the myths and stereotypes. Our country was somewhat brainwashed in the wake of Lincoln's assassination, and the Southern 'cause' was bastardized into a perverse caricature of itself. We are taught through movie portrayals and accounts, that the CW was all about slavery, and from the perspective of racist thought. As if those who opposed slavery somehow thought blacks were not inferior to whites, while those who advocated slavery, thought of blacks as sub-human. I am here to tell you, most ALL white people of the time, felt blacks were inferior to whites, even Lincoln himself. Slavery was an issue not because of 'injustices to blacks' but because of constitutional rights to property. This wasn't the fault of the slave owner, they merely did what the government allowed them to do and told them was legal to do. They invested in property... slaves... and the US Supreme Court along with Congress, upheld this institution for 85 years prior to the CW.

It is precisely because of this GROSS misconception of the war, that it takes another 100 years to achieve actual CIVIL RIGHTS for black people. It was much easier to blame racial prejudice on the former Confederacy, and pretend we were better than that, after the war. The South and the CW became our cultural scapegoat, and for nearly 100 years, we upheld institutional discrimination. To this day, we still refuse to accept, acknowledge, or deal with, the inequality issue regarding black people of the CW era. It has been typecast and permeated into our minds, that the South was racist and the North was not, and the non-racists won the war. But the history that followed the next 100 years, is proof that is not the case. The truth is, racist sentiments existed on both sides, LONG after the CW was over. The war had nothing to do with racism, and everything to do with property rights and constitutional freedoms. The issue of 'states rights' is still alive and well today, as a matter of fact... that wasn't really ever settled either.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

the remarks was to explain blacks in the repug party

Interesting, left wing nut jobs screech that there aren't any coloreds in the GOP then when there is a colored in the GOP left wing nut jobs call them "sell outs, "uncle toms" etc.

Guess left wing nut jobs are never happy

 

[blackascoal]

Nope. I do actually have an old confederate flag from the Civil War though. Along with several other artifacts. But you see, I don't view Civil War history the same as you. To me, it isn't about "racism" at all, it never was. The CW didn't happen because some people were racists and some weren't. You can believe this if you like, but the fact is, most people in 1860s America, were somewhat racist. And that went for people in the North and South, all over America. Post Civil War, the flag became a symbol of racist people, but that is a perversion of the history. I had two great ancestors who fought and died fighting for their homes and land, they never owned a slave or knew anyone who did. Ironically enough, as fate would have it, following the emancipation of the slaves, the freed slaves (many) were given 40 acres and a mule, and allowed to sharecrop. During the Great Depression, my Grandmother supported 8 children by picking cotton for a black sharecropper, the son of a former slave. If not for his giving her a job, our family tree would have vanished, and I wouldn't be here right now.

I have always felt it important to teach the true history of the Civil War era, and that includes dealing with the myths and stereotypes. Our country was somewhat brainwashed in the wake of Lincoln's assassination, and the Southern 'cause' was bastardized into a perverse caricature of itself. We are taught through movie portrayals and accounts, that the CW was all about slavery, and from the perspective of racist thought. As if those who opposed slavery somehow thought blacks were not inferior to whites, while those who advocated slavery, thought of blacks as sub-human. I am here to tell you, most ALL white people of the time, felt blacks were inferior to whites, even Lincoln himself. Slavery was an issue not because of 'injustices to blacks' but because of constitutional rights to property. This wasn't the fault of the slave owner, they merely did what the government allowed them to do and told them was legal to do. They invested in property... slaves... and the US Supreme Court along with Congress, upheld this institution for 85 years prior to the CW.

It is precisely because of this GROSS misconception of the war, that it takes another 100 years to achieve actual CIVIL RIGHTS for black people. It was much easier to blame racial prejudice on the former Confederacy, and pretend we were better than that, after the war. The South and the CW became our cultural scapegoat, and for nearly 100 years, we upheld institutional discrimination. To this day, we still refuse to accept, acknowledge, or deal with, the inequality issue regarding black people of the CW era. It has been typecast and permeated into our minds, that the South was racist and the North was not, and the non-racists won the war. But the history that followed the next 100 years, is proof that is not the case. The truth is, racist sentiments existed on both sides, LONG after the CW was over. The war had nothing to do with racism, and everything to do with property rights and constitutional freedoms. The issue of 'states rights' is still alive and well today, as a matter of fact... that wasn't really ever settled either.

While I do appreciate you stating your perspective honestly .. it is not one that I agree with by any stretch of the imagination .. and given the wealth of knowledge that I have sought and acquired about slavery .. some of what you think is absolutely disgusting to me.

You appear to have no knowledge of the suffering and ungodly nature of slavery. You appear to have no knowledge of Reconstruction and Jim Crow. You appear to have no knowledge of the terrorism of the Klan. You appear completely clueless about the tragedy of Emmitt Till.

You say that you're a student of King .. but I see no demonstration of that in the excuses for slavery that you just posted.

What you think of black people is personal brother. I don't require you to think anything of us for you and I to converse civilly. That being said I hope you take this expression of what I feel and believe as an honest expression, not intended as an attack on you.

I see King in several people on this site. I do not see King in you. King was nothing if not compassion and understanding of diversity and humanity. None of that was in the words you posted. You sound as if we were nothing more than property. As if slavers weren't brutalizing real people, just tending to his property. You could absolutely not be a student, nor a believer in King and utter and hold such thoughts. No, you're not.

Frankly, you could not be a student of King and call yourself Dixie.

I could go on .. but it is not my intention to beat you up about your honest expression. Just know that I hold a far different opinion on slavery and the monsters who committed it then you do. I am much closer to the pain and the history than you are.

Before you go off telling your story again, perhaps you should take a moment to digest this visual presentation of the real history of slavery .. What you're talking about is called his-story .. not history

www.maafa.org

Strange Fruit

Southern trees bear a strange fruit,
Blood on the leaves and blood at the root,
Black bodies swinging in the southern breeze,
Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees.

Pastoral scene of the gallant south,
The bulging eyes and the twisted mouth,
Scent of magnolias, sweet and fresh,
Then the sudden smell of burning flesh.

Here is fruit for the crows to pluck,
For the rain to gather, for the wind to suck,
For the sun to rot, for the trees to drop,
Here is a strange and bitter crop.

-- Billie Holiday

THAT is the history of the south and slavery.

 

[blackascoal]

Interesting, left wing nut jobs screech that there aren't any coloreds in the GOP then when there is a colored in the GOP left wing nut jobs call them "sell outs, "uncle toms" etc.

Guess left wing nut jobs are never happy

You can call them whatever you want.

Who the fuck cares?

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

We're not that clever and dont get along nearly as well.

We are a rather stubborn lot.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

While I do appreciate you stating your perspective honestly .. it is not one that I agree with by any stretch of the imagination .. and given the wealth of knowledge that I have sought and acquired about slavery .. some of what you think is absolutely disgusting to me.

That's because you misinterpret me to mean things you think I mean and believe I am saying things I am not saying.

You appear to have no knowledge of the suffering and ungodly nature of slavery.

I do indeed have knowledge of it, I have not denied it was a horrible and reprehensible institution. But one that our Founding Fathers condoned when they established the nation, and one the lawmakers and courts upheld for 85 years before the CSA was ever conceived. That wasn't the fault of the South, that was the fault of America as a whole... all of us.

You appear to have no knowledge of Reconstruction and Jim Crow.

Again, I have great knowledge of it, and haven't denied it. And it was a terrible time of history, but that doesn't change anything I said. In fact, I blame the following 100 years after the CW on the misconceptions and falsehoods perpetrated about the CW. You see, the narrative is, we whipped those evil racist southerners, and we are the moral victors, therefore, we can establish segregation and discriminate based on race, because we got rid of the evil thing. By not dealing with the racism of the nation, by pawning that off on the South and blaming them for the immorality, we excused ourselves from judgment on civil rights for 100 years. The CW wasn't about racism or discrimination at all, and we never dealt with that issue as a nation... we blamed it all off on The South and put it in the back of our minds as we continued to discriminate as a society. To this day, we still have not dealt with the issue, we still find those who want to blame it off on the South.

You appear to have no knowledge of the terrorism of the Klan. You appear completely clueless about the tragedy of Emmitt Till.

I know about all of these things, and again, why did these things occur if the issue of 'black equality' had been settled with the CW by defeating the South and ending slavery? Because the issue of slavery and the issue of racial prejudice were two completely different things, but we blamed all the evilness off on the South. We never dealt with our racist past, we never acknowledged the South was not the monster they were made out to be, that our ties to slavery pre-dated the CSA, and went all the way back to our founding fathers and before. We continued to point to the CW as some kind of monumental glorious iconic victory of how fair-minded we were, to give the Negroes freedom... and then, excused ourselves for the injustices done to blacks over the next century.

You say that you're a student of King .. but I see no demonstration of that in the excuses for slavery that you just posted.

I didn't post any excuse for slavery, I am again sorry you have a reading comprehension problem, but I never said that. I merely pointed out that slavery was legal, it was made the law of the land by the founding fathers, the courts had ruled slaves were property... the CSA didn't make that ruling, they weren't even in existence. Stating facts regarding the era, does not mean I agree with how things were, just that, this is how things were, and if you want to have an honest discussion, this is where you have to begin. We can't just pretend that slavery was this sketchy thing that wasn't really legal or illegal, and it depended upon whether you were a racist or not, how you saw things. That is not reality of the history, that is a gross misconception. Slavery was upheld as a legal institution in this country for 85 years before the CW or before the CSA was ever thought about.

Dr. King would tell you that you'll learn more if you open your mind and stop seeing color of skin when you read things from others. Just saying.

What you think of black people is personal brother. I don't require you to think anything of us for you and I to converse civilly. That being said I hope you take this expression of what I feel and believe as an honest expression, not intended as an attack on you.

I see King in several people on this site. I do not see King in you. King was nothing if not compassion and understanding of diversity and humanity. None of that was in the words you posted.

Well, I know that Dr. King was very adamant about historic fact. I don't think he would condemn me for speaking the truth regarding the facts. You want to try and make the facts be my viewpoint or position, and that is not the case. I don't condone slavery, I haven't excused slavery, I haven't said slavery wasn't that bad, or that the South was completely innocent of any culpability, just that the laws were as they were, and the court rulings were as well. I can't help that, BAC... I wish I could go back in time and change that, but I can't. I have to accept this. It has nothing to do with my belief in the message of Dr. King. The man has had a profound affect on my life, and it insults me a bit that you apparently have too much racist hate to acknowledge that. "Judge men not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" I have lived by this my whole life, and instilled the value in my three children, as well as my grandchildren. I am proud of that, and really, that's all that matters to me. I don't need your approval.

You sound as if we were nothing more than property.

Prior to the CW, that is precisely what the SCOTUS ruled you were! That is the point I am trying to get you to understand here! I don't LIKE that was how it was, but that IS how it was! We can pretend it wasn't, if you think that is productive, but that's not reality. According to the Congress, the Government, and the Supreme Court, black slaves were property owned, plain and simple. They were not considered people or citizens, and some didn't even recognize them as our same species. Yes, that is deplorable, that is reprehensible, that is god-awful... I agree! But that's how things were, whether you like it or admit it, or not. I didn't make it that way, BAC... I wasn't born yet! The Republicans didn't make it that way, they didn't exist yet... neither did the CSA (The South) or Rebel flags, or even the KKK in it's post-CW incarnation. That was done by the Founding Fathers, Congress of the US and US Supreme Court, and it was upheld for 85 years prior to the CW.

As if slavers weren't brutalizing real people, just tending to his property. You could absolutely not be a student, nor a believer in King and utter and hold such thoughts. No, you're not.

"As if?" I didn't say what you are "As ifing" here! You just hurled a bunch of shit in my mouth, and then derided me for it! Thoughts? They were YOUR thoughts! I didn't say them! I didn't imply them! Nothing I said was excusing of the reprehensible act of slavery. I merely stated facts about what things were like back then, what was the law of the land... slavery was legal... slaves were property. I didn't say that I agreed with that, or it was okay and right... I just said that was how things were. Can we not honestly state facts anymore? Dr. King wasn't around in 1860. I don't know what Dr. King really has to do with what the laws were regarding slaves in 1860. It seems you just want to throw up Dr. King and denigrate, rather than have an honest dialogue.

Frankly, you could not be a student of King and call yourself Dixie.

But I am and I do, so.... what can I say, BAC? I discover a great deal about people with this moniker. If you'll cast judgments based on a nickname, you're probably a fairly bigoted prejudiced person who bases their opinion on stereotypes, rather than individual character. I wish the idea were mine, the original idea comes from a black high school friend of mine, who was known for wearing a confederate bandanna doo-rag. He said he first started doing it to piss off the rednecks, but then discovered that those who took offense, black or white, were judging him based on a stereotype, and weren't worth the trouble to get to know.

I could go on .. but it is not my intention to beat you up about your honest expression. Just know that I hold a far different opinion on slavery and the monsters who committed it then you do. I am much closer to the pain and the history than you are.

No you're not, really, as I said... 1/16 African American, 1/8 Native American, 1/8 Asian. Neither of us were alive in 1860 or knew anyone who was.

Now my OPINION on slavery is a completely different topic than my understanding of history. This is where you seem to be getting mixed up. I am describing the prevailing laws and views of the time, and you are assuming these are my opinions about slavery, and that isn't what I have stated, BAC. History IS what History WAS... we can't imagine history to be as we wish it were, or it should have been. This has nothing to do with opinion, just an honest assessment of history.

To me, we do ourselves a great injustice by denying the past. By making The South our 'whipping boy' and blaming them for slavery, we ignore the facts which led to the CW in the first place, and we ignore the racist history our country had for all those years before the war. In doing so, we enabled others to justify another century of discrimination against black people.

 

[wanderingbear]

What's "white?" German? Black Dutch? I just told you what my makeup is, why are you asking again?

Tell me... How does a person of my "type" think? How does that differ from a person of your "type?"

Can you explain this, or do you now want to be an obtuse little fuckwit?

Like I said in a previous post. It isnt about race or skin color. Its about how a person thinks.What their ethics are.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Question there Dixie .. Do you have a confedrate flag hanging in/on your house .. on your pickup?

I have a confederate flag flying proudly at my house. Of course only the truly ignorant and brainwashed by Al Sharpton think it is a racist symbol. Socialists are stupid

 

[Lowaicue]

I have a confederate flag flying proudly at my house. Of course only the truly ignorant and brainwashed by Al Sharpton think it is a racist symbol. Socialists are stupid

I would say that flying ANY flag on your house shows you need psychiatric help. Flags were designed to identify a lords armies. If you have an army then your flag should be at the top of a flag pole on your parade ground.
If you fly it outside your bedroom you are just plain bloody stupid.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

I would say that flying ANY flag on your house shows you need psychiatric help. Flags were designed to identify a lords armies. If you have an army then your flag should be at the top of a flag pole on your parade ground.
If you fly it outside your bedroom you are just plain bloody stupid.

How cute. I would say that putting an OWEdummyfucker bumper sticker on your car shows you need psychiatric help.

 

[blackascoal]

That's because you misinterpret me to mean things you think I mean and believe I am saying things I am not saying.

I do indeed have knowledge of it, I have not denied it was a horrible and reprehensible institution. But one that our Founding Fathers condoned when they established the nation, and one the lawmakers and courts upheld for 85 years before the CSA was ever conceived. That wasn't the fault of the South, that was the fault of America as a whole... all of us.

Again, I have great knowledge of it, and haven't denied it. And it was a terrible time of history, but that doesn't change anything I said. In fact, I blame the following 100 years after the CW on the misconceptions and falsehoods perpetrated about the CW. You see, the narrative is, we whipped those evil racist southerners, and we are the moral victors, therefore, we can establish segregation and discriminate based on race, because we got rid of the evil thing. By not dealing with the racism of the nation, by pawning that off on the South and blaming them for the immorality, we excused ourselves from judgment on civil rights for 100 years. The CW wasn't about racism or discrimination at all, and we never dealt with that issue as a nation... we blamed it all off on The South and put it in the back of our minds as we continued to discriminate as a society. To this day, we still have not dealt with the issue, we still find those who want to blame it off on the South.

I know about all of these things, and again, why did these things occur if the issue of 'black equality' had been settled with the CW by defeating the South and ending slavery? Because the issue of slavery and the issue of racial prejudice were two completely different things, but we blamed all the evilness off on the South. We never dealt with our racist past, we never acknowledged the South was not the monster they were made out to be, that our ties to slavery pre-dated the CSA, and went all the way back to our founding fathers and before. We continued to point to the CW as some kind of monumental glorious iconic victory of how fair-minded we were, to give the Negroes freedom... and then, excused ourselves for the injustices done to blacks over the next century.

I didn't post any excuse for slavery, I am again sorry you have a reading comprehension problem, but I never said that. I merely pointed out that slavery was legal, it was made the law of the land by the founding fathers, the courts had ruled slaves were property... the CSA didn't make that ruling, they weren't even in existence. Stating facts regarding the era, does not mean I agree with how things were, just that, this is how things were, and if you want to have an honest discussion, this is where you have to begin. We can't just pretend that slavery was this sketchy thing that wasn't really legal or illegal, and it depended upon whether you were a racist or not, how you saw things. That is not reality of the history, that is a gross misconception. Slavery was upheld as a legal institution in this country for 85 years before the CW or before the CSA was ever thought about.

Dr. King would tell you that you'll learn more if you open your mind and stop seeing color of skin when you read things from others. Just saying.

Well, I know that Dr. King was very adamant about historic fact. I don't think he would condemn me for speaking the truth regarding the facts. You want to try and make the facts be my viewpoint or position, and that is not the case. I don't condone slavery, I haven't excused slavery, I haven't said slavery wasn't that bad, or that the South was completely innocent of any culpability, just that the laws were as they were, and the court rulings were as well. I can't help that, BAC... I wish I could go back in time and change that, but I can't. I have to accept this. It has nothing to do with my belief in the message of Dr. King. The man has had a profound affect on my life, and it insults me a bit that you apparently have too much racist hate to acknowledge that. "Judge men not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character!" I have lived by this my whole life, and instilled the value in my three children, as well as my grandchildren. I am proud of that, and really, that's all that matters to me. I don't need your approval.

Prior to the CW, that is precisely what the SCOTUS ruled you were! That is the point I am trying to get you to understand here! I don't LIKE that was how it was, but that IS how it was! We can pretend it wasn't, if you think that is productive, but that's not reality. According to the Congress, the Government, and the Supreme Court, black slaves were property owned, plain and simple. They were not considered people or citizens, and some didn't even recognize them as our same species. Yes, that is deplorable, that is reprehensible, that is god-awful... I agree! But that's how things were, whether you like it or admit it, or not. I didn't make it that way, BAC... I wasn't born yet! The Republicans didn't make it that way, they didn't exist yet... neither did the CSA (The South) or Rebel flags, or even the KKK in it's post-CW incarnation. That was done by the Founding Fathers, Congress of the US and US Supreme Court, and it was upheld for 85 years prior to the CW.

"As if?" I didn't say what you are "As ifing" here! You just hurled a bunch of shit in my mouth, and then derided me for it! Thoughts? They were YOUR thoughts! I didn't say them! I didn't imply them! Nothing I said was excusing of the reprehensible act of slavery. I merely stated facts about what things were like back then, what was the law of the land... slavery was legal... slaves were property. I didn't say that I agreed with that, or it was okay and right... I just said that was how things were. Can we not honestly state facts anymore? Dr. King wasn't around in 1860. I don't know what Dr. King really has to do with what the laws were regarding slaves in 1860. It seems you just want to throw up Dr. King and denigrate, rather than have an honest dialogue.

But I am and I do, so.... what can I say, BAC? I discover a great deal about people with this moniker. If you'll cast judgments based on a nickname, you're probably a fairly bigoted prejudiced person who bases their opinion on stereotypes, rather than individual character. I wish the idea were mine, the original idea comes from a black high school friend of mine, who was known for wearing a confederate bandanna doo-rag. He said he first started doing it to piss off the rednecks, but then discovered that those who took offense, black or white, were judging him based on a stereotype, and weren't worth the trouble to get to know.

No you're not, really, as I said... 1/16 African American, 1/8 Native American, 1/8 Asian. Neither of us were alive in 1860 or knew anyone who was.

Now my OPINION on slavery is a completely different topic than my understanding of history. This is where you seem to be getting mixed up. I am describing the prevailing laws and views of the time, and you are assuming these are my opinions about slavery, and that isn't what I have stated, BAC. History IS what History WAS... we can't imagine history to be as we wish it were, or it should have been. This has nothing to do with opinion, just an honest assessment of history.

To me, we do ourselves a great injustice by denying the past. By making The South our 'whipping boy' and blaming them for slavery, we ignore the facts which led to the CW in the first place, and we ignore the racist history our country had for all those years before the war. In doing so, we enabled others to justify another century of discrimination against black people.

".. make the south the whipping boy"

With all due respect, I've said about all I ever want to say to you about slavery or black people. This is not a conversation that I want to have with someone like you.

thanks

 

[canceled.2021.1]

".. make the south the whipping boy"

With all due respect, I've said about all I ever want to say to you about slavery or black people. This is not a conversation that I want to have with someone like you.

thanks

Like you know anything about slavery. One could argue that slavery was a net good for blacks. Imagine if they had never been brought over from Africa? They would still be living there in squalor. You would probably be living in squalor under a socialist regime. Wait, that would be paradise to you. No wonder you are so pissed. You were ripped from socialism and brought to freedom.

 

[blackascoal]

Like you know anything about slavery. One could argue that slavery was a net good for blacks. Imagine if they had never been brought over from Africa? They would still be living there in squalor. You would probably be living in squalor under a socialist regime. Wait, that would be paradise to you. No wonder you are so pissed. You were ripped from socialism and brought to freedom.

Go stick your head in a toliet you ignorant motherfucker.

Who gives a fuck what you think?

You're the least respected dumb ass-wipe on this board.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

Gop stick your head in a toliet you ignorant motherfucker.

Who gives a fuck what you think?

You're the least respected dumb ass-wipe on this board.

Who is so shallow and devoid of self respect that they would desire respect on a message board? Is that you? Is that part of the remnants of slavery that you carry with you? Are you a perpetual Al Sharpton victim? Given that fewer than 1% of this country ever owned slaves. Like I said, you have no claim to slavery. It isn't some special thing that only the coloreds had to endure. Every people had to endure it at some point in history.

For some reason you coloreds think you are special and were most afflicted from it. The sad thing is that your race has allowed it to cripple you and make you dependent on the state and one party. Where has that gotten your race? Not very far if you ask me.

Slavery is an abomination. No mans labor should be abrogated against his will. But, as my ancestors weren't a part of the American slave trade, I feel no guilt about it. If you want to hang on to it to try to make white folk feel guilty, then good for you. It won't work on me. I see through your scam.

 

[blackascoal]

Who is so shallow and devoid of self respect that they would desire respect on a message board? Is that you? Is that part of the remnants of slavery that you carry with you? Are you a perpetual Al Sharpton victim? Given that fewer than 1% of this country ever owned slaves. Like I said, you have no claim to slavery. It isn't some special thing that only the coloreds had to endure. Every people had to endure it at some point in history.

For some reason you coloreds think you are special and were most afflicted from it. The sad thing is that your race has allowed it to cripple you and make you dependent on the state and one party. Where has that gotten your race? Not very far if you ask me.

Slavery is an abomination. No mans labor should be abrogated against his will. But, as my ancestors weren't a part of the American slave trade, I feel no guilt about it. If you want to hang on to it to try to make white folk feel guilty, then good for you. It won't work on me. I see through your scam.

 

[canceled.2021.1]

 

[blackascoal]

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

".. make the south the whipping boy"

With all due respect, I've said about all I ever want to say to you about slavery or black people. This is not a conversation that I want to have with someone like you.

thanks

Okay, so you are content with allowing people to use the South and CW as a scapegoat? It's okay that we discriminated against black people for a century after the CW because white people absolved their guilt by blaming the Confederates? Look, I am on your side here, but you want to follow the mindset of white society by pointing the finger of blame at the stereotype, along with other bigots. It's so easy to excuse yourself and others for the past, when the past can be blamed off on some other entity that no longer exists. Instead of us DEALING with our insecurities and prejudices, we hid behind a facade. We constructed a 'whipping boy' in the Confederate South, and laid all the blame for evil on them, as we proceeded on our merry way the next century, discriminating against people of color. You're okay with that? Because I am not. I refuse to continue propping up the facade.

Someone like me? What am I like, BAC? Do we know each other? Or are you basing this solely on the fact that you don't like me because you see me as a white person who sports a confederate avatar and uses the name "Dixie" as a proud moniker? Yes BAC, just disregard the rather long post I made in response to you, and continue in your bigoted hate, that's the solution to our race relations problems, isn't it? That's how we come to better understanding of each other as people, by completely ignoring each other and clinging to memes and stereotypes! This is what you learned from Dr. King, right?

 

[blackascoal]

Okay, so you are content with allowing people to use the South and CW as a scapegoat? It's okay that we discriminated against black people for a century after the CW because white people absolved their guilt by blaming the Confederates? Look, I am on your side here, but you want to follow the mindset of white society by pointing the finger of blame at the stereotype, along with other bigots. It's so easy to excuse yourself and others for the past, when the past can be blamed off on some other entity that no longer exists. Instead of us DEALING with our insecurities and prejudices, we hid behind a facade. We constructed a 'whipping boy' in the Confederate South, and laid all the blame for evil on them, as we proceeded on our merry way the next century, discriminating against people of color. You're okay with that? Because I am not. I refuse to continue propping up the facade.

Someone like me? What am I like, BAC? Do we know each other? Or are you basing this solely on the fact that you don't like me because you see me as a white person who sports a confederate avatar and uses the name "Dixie" as a proud moniker? Yes BAC, just disregard the rather long post I made in response to you, and continue in your bigoted hate, that's the solution to our race relations problems, isn't it? That's how we come to better understanding of each other as people, by completely ignoring each other and clinging to memes and stereotypes! This is what you learned from Dr. King, right?

:0)

Am I obligated to talk to you about slavery? If not, why do you continue to post to me about it when I've already stated real clearly that I find your perspective creepy and disgusting.

I'm not the least bit interested in what you think of my perspectives on the subject and I don't require your validation.

Please take your fairy-tale somewhere else.