I have a question about Charlotte

aloysious said:
Solid judgeships, enforcing immigration laws, reigning in the EPA, and repealing the ACA are all things I agree with. On a persnal level I can't stand him. Zero class. I wish we had a Gerald Ford type who supported all those things. Trump's personality gets in the way. If I were polled I be one of the 66% or whatever that don't think he's doing a good job because he could for sure communicate better. I voted for Johnson. How many times do I have to repeat that before you bricks get it? Yeah I know. Sucks doesn't it? Wish there was a Gerald Ford out there . Wish I had a million more in my portfolio. It's the everything else I'm interested in. Except I'm all for free trade and nobody's for that anymore except libertarians which I've voted since '00.
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Politics are funny. You vote for Gary Johnson and people on the right say you essentially voted for Hillary and people on the left still say you're a racist.

If folks are arguing that you support everything about a candidate who you vote for then I guess liberals support seeing black folks in jail because that's what the Clinton's brought us.
 
aloysious said:
Solid judgeships, enforcing immigration laws, reigning in the EPA, and repealing the ACA are all things I agree with. On a persnal level I can't stand him. Zero class. I wish we had a Gerald Ford type who supported all those things. Trump's personality gets in the way. If I were polled I be one of the 66% or whatever that don't think he's doing a good job because he could for sure communicate better. I voted for Johnson. How many times do I have to repeat that before you bricks get it? Yeah I know. Sucks doesn't it? Wish there was a Gerald Ford out there . Wish I had a million more in my portfolio. It's the everything else I'm interested in. Except I'm all for free trade and nobody's for that anymore except libertarians which I've voted since '00.
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While you are on your knees worshipping Trump and sucking his cock, people with higher character and morals are appalled by what Trump did - including people in his own administration

Trump's top economic adviser, Gary Cohn, is reportedly 'disgusted' and 'appalled' with Trump's Charlottesville response
http://www.businessinsider.com/gary...trump-charlottesville-press-conference-2017-8

Some aides and confidants privately described themselves as sickened and appalled, if not entirely surprised, by Trump’s off-the-cuff comments.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...20da1aeb507_story.html?utm_term=.f1795a3204c2
 
cawacko said:
Politics are funny. You vote for Gary Johnson and people on the right say you essentially voted for Hillary and people on the left still say you're a racist.
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It all depends on who wins. I was harangued on dcj by cons for not voting for Rom and wasting my vote. And of course libs love to scream racism when you disagree with them on .... anything.
 
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people with higher character and morals are appalled by what Trump did - including people in his own administration
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Yeah, too bad there's not a better communicator with his policies, except for trade. Sucks.
I'll just have to get used to it. He's not going to change.
 
aloysious said:
It all depends on who wins. I was harangued on dcj by cons for not voting for Rom and wasting my vote. And of course libs love to scream racism when you disagree with them on .... anything.
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a 3rd party vote is a noble use of enfranchisement. Votes other wise are choices between lessors of 2 evils
More people vote against greater evils ( un-favorables) then support for candidates
 
anatta said:
a 3rd party vote is a noble use of enfranchisement. Votes other wise are choices between lessors of 2 evils
More people vote against greater evils ( un-favorables) then support for candidates
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It will be interesting to me in three + years how I vote. I've been so disgusted with the behavior from the left since Nov. 8 I'm inclined to vote for Trump. But I've never voted in that way before.
 
aloysious said:
I'll get to the point. None of you fucks will answer my questions because let's admit it, we all know the answers. The answers are a little too uncomfortable for your comfort.
The nazis directed their violence toward the antifas who already have a history of violence even when no nazis are around. They have a history of looting, destroying property, and even assaulting police horses in violent protests against the First Amendment of the Constitution. .
I have no problem with anybody demonstrating peacefully . It's the first amendment of our Constitution which I have no problem with . That's what MLK preached. But for some reason Antifas do and that is no different than the SS .
The fact that my questions were too uncomfortable for you to answer only tells me that you are ashamed of what you are.
As far as statues of Confederate officers, I could give a fuck. We have statues of William Seward and Capt. James Cook and a heroic mushing dog named Baldo around here. I'm sure one day cats will unite against Baldo be supported by violent antifa protests and even his statue will be removed in the name of Political Correctness.
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So this was a rhetorical question meant to start intelligent discussion?

You still came to the wrong place.

The Nazis directed their violence toward Jews, and those who were attending mass in a black church on Friday night. What happened on Saturday was a clash of idealogues, as well as people who simply did not agree with Nazis marching in their streets.

I'm not all that familiar with the Antifas, save for the mention of them every time trump is criticized.

If you agree with trump that Friday night saw a 'peaceful protest' by people who didn't want the statue removed, then you're not really looking for a discussion here.
 
aloysious said:
Yeah, too bad there's not a better communicator with his policies, except for trade. Sucks.
I'll just have to get used to it. He's not going to change.
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I was disgusted at his impromptu 'press conference', where he not only stepped on his own tongue, but also affirmed his support to the Nazi wing of his base.

I was thrilled by the spectacle, but the press missed a perfect opportunity. In fact both the press, and trump missed what can only be termed 'a layup'. trump could have improved his poll numbers by 10% by uttering a simple denunciation of Nazis.

The press, however, missed an opportunity that will never be available again. When trump challenged CEOs to bring jobs back to this country, not one member of the press thought to ask 'Will you be the first CEO to do that mr. trump?"
 
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I didn't see it live either...frankly I don't trust any coverage.
Trump says they both were violent and should be condemned and fake news denounces that basic fact
( i did see violence)

So when I hear "such and such started it" or questions about the logistics,i have to wonder if I'm being bullshitted ( lied) to

It's to the point I can't trust any newz source for basic facts
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Fact is, if they _____ stage a permitted protest and nobody pays attention, nothing will ensue and they will go away.
But if they____ stage a permitted protest and are being provoked by some rabid fascist mob, violence may ensue.
Simple.
Please note that I left blanks.
Please also note websites like protest.net. What if____forms a site organizing counter protesting left wing gatherings and marches? Wouldn't that be awesome? Holding a mirror to these fascists for not allowing the right to free speech.
 
aloysious said:
Anybody that murders is bad. You miss the whole point if you think I'm defending nazis. I'm defending their right to assemble and free speech no different than I would for black panthers or abortion protesters (pro or anti).
duh And I don't care for these nazis any more than violent antifas (I know, repetitive words strung together).
The fact that my questions were too uncomfortable for you to answer only tells me that you are ashamed of what you are. I'm not.
You are against the right to assemble and free speech. So what? Just admit it.
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I will wait patiently for you to find any post of mine saying people don't have the right to free speech or the right to assemble.

And when you come up empty I'll call you a lying liar, just like your messiah trump.
 
aloysious said:
I watch little to no TV, get most of my news from here, Yahoo! News, and NPR while driving to work so I don't really see current events as they are happening.
I've read about BLM and antifas protests where the violence seems to be against their own neighborhoods in BLM's case and against police and their horses in antifa's case.
So here's my question: Were the nazis burning and looting or were they attacking police and their horses or was it a different type of violence?
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fucking racist

a person was killed and others were maimed for life you stupid racist
 
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