Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
and the mothers milk of politics. Yup, I'm sure the stake holders in Chik Fil A have told the CEO to STFU about controversial social/political issues. It's just bad for business.
I hate to say I told you so....
- Thread starter Mott the Hoople
- Start date
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
Boy you sure don't know much about business, do you? LOL
Here's a clue. If you say shit that offends people, don't be surprized if they stop buying your product. Particularly when your product aint all that great to begin with.
canceled.2021.1
#AMERICAISDEAD
I am sure you feel that way across the board and not your bullshit queer fantasies.
What exactly did he say that offense you so much?
Like i said and you just confirmed, you are just trying to stifle speech you don't agree with. It is the way of the totalitarian
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Absolutely.
Why would I want to spend money with a business that doesn't like hispanics, or refuses to give women equal pay, or that thinks gays are less than human? Why would I do that no matter how good their product may be?
Business 102: Keep your politics out of your business unless politics is your business.
That is super-duper-uber ridiculous.
Are you of the opinion that people don't have the right to spend THEIR money where THEY want to spend it? Is that your idea of "free speech?"
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Truer words have never been spoken.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Absolutely.:0)
canceled.2021.1
#AMERICAISDEAD
So you say no politics in business huh? Do you really mean that? Or is it just politics you don't agree with.
It is funny to see liberals be the first to try to stifles speech
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
As said previously, obviously you don't know much about business .. else you wouldn't ask such an elementary question.
Businesses may talk about what they do in the community, but they don't talk about politics because they want everybody to spend their money with them. That's the nature of business .. that you don't seem to know.
You don't want to "stifle" Chick Fila because you agree with their politics .. you'd rather stifle the free expression of where one spends their money.
Righties are corporate stooges of the highest order.
Cancel 2016.2
The Almighty
I agree.
But, again, this is not just business. The government should have no say here, unless their was a legitimate concern over how employees were treated (you don't get an ecclesiastical exemption for making chicken). This is the use of state force to promote your political beliefs. It is no different than what some jerks were trying to do in lower Manhattan. It should be opposed on principle.
If you don't want to eat at Chic-fil-a, thats fine. But if you really want to stick it to them, make it your regular stop for bathroom breaks.
That's salting the earth.
If you don't want to eat at Chic-fil-a, thats fine. But if you really want to stick it to them, make it your regular stop for bathroom breaks.
That's salting the earth.
Cancel 2016.2
The Almighty
How about you link us up to show that sales were down. All your article showed us is that the Alderman in Chicago (not shocking) violated the rights of Chik-fil-a's owner to free speech. He is penalizing a business because the owner expressed religious beliefs. That is complete bullshit.
The owner did state already that he was not going to discuss political issues any more given the bullshit he got from assholes like this Alderman. The Alderman had NO right to hold the owners opinion against the business when it was applying for construction permits.
As Echo stated earlier... what if someone had been denied a permit because they supported the NAACP? What if they had been forced to stop supporting the NAACP in order for the Alderman to grant them a permit? What would you be saying right now?
Mott the Hoople
Sweet Jane
You're just verifying my point Tinkerbell. His comments we're bad for business.
Cancel 2016.2
The Almighty
Again, you say that with no evidence. The only thing 'bad' that came from his comments is some asshole politicians tried to penalize him for his religious beliefs.
Again Mutt... what if he had been supporting the NAACP and been denied a permit based on that. Would you still be singing the same tune?
Didn't think so.
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Then people who don't support the NAACP have every right to go spend their money somewhere else.
Point being, keep politics out of your business unless politics is your business.
I'm betting that you already know that .. just upset that this business has been dictated to and forced to recognize this truth.
Cancel 2016.2
The Almighty
Yes, just as people had the right to choose whether or not to eat at Chik-Fil-A.
So people that run businesses are not entitled to express their political or religious views? Politicians should have the right to penalize people for expressing their views by withholding permits from those that hold opinions that don't mesh with their own?
I am betting you know what the Alderman did was unconstitutional and a direct violation of the rights of the Chik-fil-A owner. The Alderman was in the wrong. I don't support the views of the Chik-Fil-A owner and I think he is an idiot for stating them. But I will stand up for his right to express his views if he chooses.
If the Supreme Court had agreed with you in NAACP vs Alabama then the cause would have been smothered in the crib.
Yes, you have every right to not eat at Chic-Fil-A or not support NAACP backed businesses. The government should not be intimidating anyone or even helping others to intimidate. This is EXACTLY why the court has held that contributions and support of certain causes is protected as speech.
Of course, I don't really like the idea of allowing people to protest in public under a sheet, but there is good reason to allow a certain amount of anonymity. It should protect everyone.
The owner of Chic-Fil-A made his opinions known so the outing is not an issue.
Still, the alderman has no right to use the power of his office as he did. I am guessing, FactsRStubborn, is partially right. The Alderman was backed down. Chic-Fil-A probably gave him a way to save face and avoid the legal squabble that he would have surely lost. Money is fungible and there is not much chance that they can really stop the owner from supporting whatever he wants. But he can be stopped from using his bigoted views in employment practices. Sexuality has nothing to do with making chicken.
Why not return to post 6 and try to grasp WTF the point of the topic is.....extortion is a crime, no matter what the reason....
What strawman claptrap bullshit......what happened to your brains over the last couple of years ?.....We all slow down some, but your neurons seem to have completely stopped....
blackascoal
The Force is With Me
Which is exactly what happened. Where's the problem?
People in business can do whatever they want. They can hang confederate flags in black neighborhoods if they want. They can flay a nazi flag in Jewish neighborhoods if they want .. and Chic Fila can hate gays if they want. Where is your argument?
Of course they would be stupid to believe that anyone is going to buy their product .. Business 101.
What you ignore is that people have a right to spend THEIR money anywhere THEY want. Businesses can do what they want, and so can customers.
How is it that you're having such a difficult time with this very basic concept of business and freedom.
Again, you don't seem to understand the most basic concept of business .. don't piss off people you want to buy your product. You seem to be of the opinion that busness is all powerful and that people should have no say in where they spend their money.
As far as the alderman's actions, I applaud them even though they may have been in violation of some code or statute. that's how direct action works. Was it in violation of some code for students and activists to 'sit-in' during the civil rights struggle?
It sure was.
Did those who participated accomplish a goal?
They sure did.
Did the Alderman accomplish his goal?
He sure did.
By your logic brother, you would have been screaming and the Montgomery Bus boycotters and suggesting that the business owner had every right to do as he pleased.
Last edited:
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Sad little Rightie throws another tantrum...cry us all a big ol river you sad little Rightie!