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I don't know about you, but I don't remember a time in the past 200 years where the people storming churches were the good guys...
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You mean they broke all those windows, tore down doors, and assaulted police when they were letting in by those very police? Who knew
No they aren’t, they are there to create reality TV for lemmings as yourself
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
Fine.
If you want to play that game and tap dance and deflect, I'll just let that point go, despite the fact that several credible sources have attested to it having happened but you've decided to exploit the fact that there is no video in order to claim a "win".
Whatever.
But to the larger point ....
The whole reason you started this thread seems to be for the purpose of ginning up fake poutrage over the idea that churches, which are sacred places of worship, are being wrongfully targeted by dang ol' evil lib'rul protesters defending them dang ol' illegal immee-grints.
Fine.
So then why is the fact that ya-boy trump rescinded the protections for churches against ICE raids not bother you at all?
IOW... if churches are such sacred places that it's wrong to defile by raiding them, why do you seem to be OK with trump removing legal protections from ICE raiding them?
Makes no sense, but then nothing you trump defenders ever say or do ever makes any sense.
He hasn't. Courts, and ICE, still require things like warrants to enter the private spaces. As well as the fact that by March 2025, a court injunction was in place restricting certain actions at a list of ~1,400 specified places of worship unless a warrant is used, effectively reinstating some limits in practice.
You know what's worse? Trump voters murdering black people in churches, grocery stores and Walmarts.
But you go ahead and keep bitching about Democrats standing to your fascism
I would say nice deflection,...but its not, its just stupid and didn't work at all.
Are you borrowing @AProudLefty 's 3 year old posting tactics?
What am I talking about? The brownshirt of your insurrection barging into a church to search for enemies of the insurrection and the party.
There is zero difference between these brownshirts and those in Berlin in 1928. Hitler's insurrectionists hated Jews and Capitalism - just like the democrat brownshirts in Minneapolis do. Violent thugs who attacked police and anyone they thought opposed their fascist party.
I would say nice deflection,...but its not, its just stupid and didn't work at all.
Yeah, Leech is not well. Not well at all.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
What the court did has nothing to do with my question to you.
In an attempt to strip away protections churches had previously enjoyed, trump rescinded a Biden policy that required ICE to have warrants.
You don't seem bothered by trump's attempt to allow ICE to do the same thing you're upset at anti-ICE protesters for doing.
If some federal judge hadn't ruled against it, trump's policy of allowing ICE agents to have free run of churches would be in effect now.
Keep in mind also, these protesters are not entering private spaces either. At worst, they're entering the same spaces ICE agents are allowed to enter.
Something that again, you do not seem to be bothered by.
So, I see that an arrest warrant has been issued for Don Lemon, as one of the leaders of the Brownshirts who broke into the church and terrorized parishioners.
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IBDaMann
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Denial on your part.
Denial on your part.
The "they" who broke windows were DNC agitators, planted among the peaceful protestors and pretending to be MAGA.
Outside the Capitol, no violent DNC agitator who actually committed violence was ever arrested and arrained, i.e. they were all ignored, per the agreement. For none of those who were actually arrested and arraigned is there any video evidence of them committing any violence. Your narrative is one big lie, fabricated by the DNC for the consumption of the gullible leftists such as yourself who HATE America, who despise any attempt to make it great again, and who will not stop until the US Constitution is abolished.
Indoors, everything was peaceful until the Capitol Police became beligerent and decided to murder Ashli Babbit, for which the Capitol Police had to pay a $30 million wrongful death settlement.
I'm happy to entertain any video evidence that you have of protestors actually attacking police who were arrested, arraigned and sentenced. All you have are peaceful protestors who were falsely imprisoned without any video evidence, while none of those for whom there is video evidence were even arraigned, much less charged.
Present your evidence. Your dishonest narrative has long-since been debunked.
No police were attacked by any MAGA protestors. Present your video evidence and arraignment links.
It comes as no surprise that you mindless, undereducated leftists OBEDIENTLY regurgitate whatever you are told to believe, without question, out of HATRED for America. This is why the Democrats are the party of slavery.
IBDaMann
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What does that even mean?
Oh, that's right, you leftists think that the Executive branch is the Legislative branch. You are clueless when it comes to the US government.
Nomad
Every trumper is a N4T.
They were protesting the pastor and his association with ICE not terrorizing the worshippers.
Like every other bullshit thing trump tries to weasel past us, this is going to fail also.
But of course you don't care.
By the time it gets thrown out, trump and you dimwits who follow him will have moved on to some new clownish endeavor.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
<snicker>I would say nice deflection,...but its not, its just stupid and didn't work at all.
Dutch Uncle
* Tertia Optio * Defend the Constitution
Even so, disrupting the service is wrong. It put innocent worshipers in the middle of a dispute. If they had a problem with an ICE employee, they should have waited until he left the church or met at his office.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
Romans 12:17
Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone.
It is good to see that you think trump was bad guy for storming Saint John's with troops to take it over for a photo op.
In general, the government has tried to avoid storming of religious grounds, but that is being eroded. ICE used to never go after people in churches, courts, or schools. Now they will enter religious grounds.
The KKK often cloaked itself with religion, was it OK to go after them? Christian Identity does nothing but cloak themselves with religion, should they be immune.
Let's take a real world situation: a bunch of thugs in a Christian Identity "church" parking lot are getting into a UHaul truck with the attention of attacking a Gay Pride Parade. The police do not want to let them get to the parade, because then they will start killing people. The safest thing for everyone(including the criminals) might be for the police to arrest them in the "church" parking lot.
In the real world case, they were allowed to leave the parking lot to avoid being arrested on "church" grounds. But, I can envision a situation where allowing them to leave the parking lot would mean loss of control of the situation, especially had there been guns involved.
IBDaMann
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The Capitol is a public building owned by We the People; We can protest stolen elections there anytime we wish.
Private churches are, well, private.
You don't understand asingle word of what Im saying, do you?
Well, you would certainly be familiar with propaganda videos, right? The more absurd they are, the more you believe them. I presume this particular video just wasn't absurd enough for you to accept it as truthful. Hey, a mindless regurgitator has to do what a mindless regurgitator has to do; you tell 'em how Joe Biden, who needed to bus in eight people in order to get double-digit attendance at his rallies, somehow magically got more votes than his opponent who received the US record number of votes for any US President ever.
IBDaMann
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How can you manage to get onto the internet when you never could manage to find your way to school?
T. A. Gardner
Serial Thread Killer
And that's fine until you burst into the church itself, then disrupt an ongoing religious service, and communicate threats to those attending that service. At that point, you as a protester have a big problem.
Noking
Fight authoritarianism support Noking
This is quite the way to justify extremist right wing violence.The Capitol is a public building owned by We the People; We can protest stolen elections there anytime we wish.
Private churches are, well, private.
You don't understand asingle word of what Im saying, do you?
Well, you would certainly be familiar with propaganda videos, right? The more absurd they are, the more you believe them. I presume this particular video just wasn't absurd enough for you to accept it as truthful. Hey, a mindless regurgitator has to do what a mindless regurgitator has to do; you tell 'em how Joe Biden, who needed to bus in eight people in order to get double-digit attendance at his rallies, somehow magically got more votes than his opponent who received the US record number of votes for any US President ever.