I can see the agonized rants now: "Obama bans cell phones"....

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Vader said:
No, it is not. Some people need to use the phone while they're driving. Truckers especially.
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Yes it is. The fact that truckers and salesmen and others need to use their cell phones for communications during work related transit is completely irrelevant to the fact that it is unsafe to be so distracted when operating a motor vehicle.
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yes it is. The fact that truckers and salesmen and others need to use their cell phones for communications during work related transit is completely irrelevant to the fact that it is unsafe to be so distracted when operating a motor vehicle.
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What about ambulances, police and other emergency services?
 
Aoxomoxoa said:
The point I'm trying to make is that if using handfree phones is so distracting for ordinary drivers, then why not for the emergency services?
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because governments of all levels consider themselves above the law, or the law. which ever the case may be, they don't want to be restricted in their freedoms but have no problem at all enforcing them on us.
 
The Defense authorization bill just passed by Congress contains provisions that allow the indefinite detention of US citizens...

...Civil liberties advocates and human rights groups have urged Obama not to sign the measure, arguing that it would allow for the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens.


The senators voting “no” Thursday spanned the ideological spectrum and included Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), Jim De­Mint (R-S.C.), Al Franken (D-Minn.), Bernard Sanders (I-Vt.), Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), Rand Paul (R-Ky.).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e-provisions/2011/12/15/gIQAh1vhwO_story.html
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Yes it is. The fact that truckers and salesmen and others need to use their cell phones for communications during work related transit is completely irrelevant to the fact that it is unsafe to be so distracted when operating a motor vehicle.
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I don't recall seing agonized rants from the righties when states and local governments passed laws aimed at reducing distracted driving....but when a federal agency makes a recommendation and Obama happens to be in the White House, they shriek like little girls.


Ban on handheld cell phones while driving: Nine states (California, Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, and Washington) plus D.C. and Virgin Islands require hands-free mobile use.


Cell phone bans for novice drivers: 30 states and D.C. ban cell phone use by novices.


Cell phone bans for school bus drivers: 19 states and D.C. ban the use of cell phones by school bus drivers.


Ban on texting while driving: 35 states, D.C., and Guam ban texting while driving for all drivers. Another 7 states (Alabama, Mississippi, Missouri, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Texas, and West Virginia) ban the practice for novice drivers, while Mississippi, Oklahoma, and Texas ban the practice by school bus drivers.


Other states have variations on cell phone while driving bans, like New Hampshire, which has distracted driving laws.

Texas bans handheld phones and texting in school zones, while Illinois bans handheld cell phones in school zones and highway construction zones.


Many cities have also passed distracted driving bans, though states like Florida, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, and Oklahoma ban local officials from enacting such laws.



http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397646,00.asp
 
\(())/ said:
The Defense authorization bill just passed by Congress contains provisions that allow the indefinite detention of US citizens...

...Civil liberties advocates and human rights groups have urged Obama not to sign the measure, arguing that it would allow for the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens.


The senators voting “no” Thursday spanned the ideological spectrum and included Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), Jim De*Mint (R-S.C.), Al Franken (D-Minn.), Bernard Sanders (I-Vt.), Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), Rand Paul (R-Ky.).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e-provisions/2011/12/15/gIQAh1vhwO_story.html
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More respect for those that voted no than before.
 
The sad thing is that it was texting which prompted these bans in the first place, and yet many states went beyond addressing texting.
 
Well, since there are no agonized rants we may have to provide a few to cover for Rootbeer. Can't have a person smart enough to post on JPP all hanging out there with a couple quotes from some dude in Florida his only evidence of rants...
 
WinterBorn said:
The laws requiring hands-free only use of cell phones was a waste of paper. The act of holding the cell phone is not the danger. The attention granted to t he call is what is the danger.
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should that apply to radios in the car - after all they can be quite distracting - add cds to dvd players
 
\(())/ said:
The Defense authorization bill just passed by Congress contains provisions that allow the indefinite detention of US citizens...

...Civil liberties advocates and human rights groups have urged Obama not to sign the measure, arguing that it would allow for the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens.


The senators voting “no” Thursday spanned the ideological spectrum and included Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), Jim De*Mint (R-S.C.), Al Franken (D-Minn.), Bernard Sanders (I-Vt.), Tom Coburn (R-Okla.), Rand Paul (R-Ky.).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e-provisions/2011/12/15/gIQAh1vhwO_story.html
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this needs a thread of its own

indefinite confinement with no trial sounds like something a dictator would love, yet obama has said that he will not veto it

i can only hope that scotus decides it is unconstitutional
 
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