If that was so you would shut up.
"I believe Ukraine can win this war"
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If that was so you would shut up.
Matt Dillon
Retardium User
Don't try to tell me to shut up. I ain't the one, bitch!
I doubt you have ever encountered anyone like me.
Tinkerpeach
Member
Any war with China would start out with an economic attack.
China could easily throw our economy into disarray with as much as they control sending us into a deep recession or even depression.
Our government has allowed them to gather too much power here especially in the bonds market.
Next up would be cyber attacks which they have been perfecting for years causing even more trouble.
As for actual war, we have the naval power to hold China to a standstill but we can't win and if it's fought over there, which it will be, they can resupply far quicker than we can.
Our losses would be enormous, not to mention that over the past 20 years they have been designing their military to take on us with things like aircraft carrier sinking hypersonic missiles.
We have zero ability to actually invade China.
Also add to that the fact that the Russians would more than likely support China and it's a no win situation.
And to top it off, China has nukes so we are not going to risk that.
China could easily throw our economy into disarray with as much as they control sending us into a deep recession or even depression.
Our government has allowed them to gather too much power here especially in the bonds market.
Next up would be cyber attacks which they have been perfecting for years causing even more trouble.
As for actual war, we have the naval power to hold China to a standstill but we can't win and if it's fought over there, which it will be, they can resupply far quicker than we can.
Our losses would be enormous, not to mention that over the past 20 years they have been designing their military to take on us with things like aircraft carrier sinking hypersonic missiles.
We have zero ability to actually invade China.
Also add to that the fact that the Russians would more than likely support China and it's a no win situation.
And to top it off, China has nukes so we are not going to risk that.
Um no....the Han believe in total war...they will come at us with everything.....shock and awe.
The American Failed Elite Class will never see any of this coming.
They suck this much.
Tinkerpeach
Member
They don't have the ability yet to come at us over here.
That is the most rapidly expanding part of their military however although they are far away from being able to project power across the globe.
They are playing catch up.
However, locally they would be unbeatable.
Tranquillus in Exile
New member
You mean a century or more? I'm not as pessimistic as you , Doc.
Also, since the Anglo-Irish Treaty of 1921, the Brits have never tried to capture Dublin - and failed.
Bull Shit.
Tinkerpeach
Member
Alright, I guess you should start prepping for that Chinese invasion of America lol.
It looks to me like they are doing a controlled implosion ...with the Han needing to resort to military measures goes down as a -1.
You claimed to know what is going on......I need to see some evidence of this more than you basically understanding what is going on in Ukraine.
Tinkerpeach
Member
All I have are my analysis, I have no clue what is actually going on.
Nobody does unless you are in Russian hierarchy.
I mean "the Troubles".
If Putin had only rolled into the Separatist areas, there would have been a lot of bitching, but basically I think he'd have gotten away with it. By invading the whole country, he kicked open a hornet's nest. By allowing his troops to commit multiple atrocities against Ukrainian civilians, he made it impossible for the Ukrainians to ever accept anything less than completely pulling out of the country. Even if a ceasefire is established, the Ukrainians will be killing Russians in Ukraine for years to come.
NATO and the G7 has committed to equipping Ukraine with high tech weapons as long as neccessary. A long term security arrangement has been achieved, and there is a commitment to eventually invite Ukraine into NATO.
Meanwhile, Russia is begging North Korea and Iran for drones and weapons.
When I posted this thread, Putin controlled possibly as much as 40 percent of Ukraine.
Today he controls 16 to 18 percent.
Putin's dream of conquering Ukraine, holding victory parades in Kyiv, and making Ukraine a vassal state of the Russian empire is a dream whose time has passed.
The only question remaining is if Putin will be allowed to keep the thin sliver of land he now occupies along the shores of the Sea of Azov.
Russia is losing this war and has been forced back to the Separatist areas.
In a war of attrition, the Russians will lose; Ukrainians are dedicated to defending their homeland and the more body bags sent back to Russia will convince Russians this war is W-R-O-N-G.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682
Russia is losing this war and has been forced back to the Separatist areas.
In a war of attrition, the Russians will lose; Ukrainians are dedicated to defending their homeland and the more body bags sent back to Russia will convince Russians this war is W-R-O-N-G.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60506682
Politically, Ukraine has already won in a very real sense. Putin defined Russian victory as the conquest and subjugation of Ukraine.
There is no realistic chance for Putin to ever take Kyiv and install a puppet government. An independent sovereign Ukraine oriented towards the West is now a 21st century reality; they are to well armed and burning with hatred towards Russia to ever submit to the Kremlin.
Well armed means the Ukrainians will more quickly push the Russians out either by force or by sending enough body bags back to Russia that the Russian people themselves demand a withdrawal.
Even if all the pro-Putin cocksuckers on JPP got their wish and all NATO funding of Ukraine was stopped, the Ukrainians would continue to fight for decades with guerrilla warfare, using captured Russian weapons against Russians.
To right you are
Putin believed his own propaganda that Ukranians aren't really a distinct people with their own sovereign ambitions separate from Russia, and he was expecting large parts of the Ukranian armed forces to defect to him, and assumed he would be greeted in Kyiv with flowers and candies.
Putin's belief coupled with his reaction to COVID are both indicators to me that he has debilitating mental issues.