Hundreds of American Jews protest outside AIPAC against Occupation

What difference does that make exactly? Why does one need to go there? Personal experience though beneficial is not the only way to become informed on a subject.

When someone has a rabid view on anything (not just this) that rabid view better be based on actual experience. You are correct as usual with this statement "Personal experience though beneficial is not the only way to become informed on a subject", the key word there being informed. Once someone takes a hateful turn towards something that they never experienced or saw upfront, they tend to only find information that agrees with their perspective on an issue. That is why I am asking Moon if he has actually been there and if his/her observations are based on experience. It does not sound like it to me.
 
What difference does that make exactly? Why does one need to go there? Personal experience though beneficial is not the only way to become informed on a subject.
I been to Vietnam and know from my daughter in law's family at first hand how bad the Communists treated people in the South. But why should you go anywhere and find out for yourself, stay in your 'Merican bubble, knit baby clothes and bake cookies. Maybe Bud should've by himself, I am sure he would want to go. Many former GIs have already made that journey!

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When someone has a rabid view on anything (not just this) that rabid view better be based on actual experience. You are correct as usual with this statement "Personal experience though beneficial is not the only way to become informed on a subject", the key word there being informed. Once someone takes a hateful turn towards something that they never experienced or saw upfront, they tend to only find information that agrees with their perspective on an issue. That is why I am asking Moon if he has actually been there and if his/her observations are based on experience. It does not sound like it to me.
He hasn't and you won't get anything out of the bugger either.

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While you belittle their efforts, they are important in that they bring attention to the matter.

I was never in the Iraq or Vietnam wars, but I feel my protest did its part in ending them.

Not belittling. At all. The attention they are bringing is meaningless. Nothing other than a feel good moment. Let me clarify. If they did this in front of the Knesset in Israel or HAMAS in Palestine....they might notice. Doing it here means diddly squat. When you protested against Iraq and Vietnam guess who listened? The government you were trying to get to listen did, because you are a citizen. If you were from say....Tibet, do you think your protest would matter? Hell no.
 
Not belittling. At all. The attention they are bringing is meaningless. Nothing other than a feel good moment. Let me clarify. If they did this in front of the Knesset in Israel or HAMAS in Palestine....they might notice. Doing it here means diddly squat. When you protested against Iraq and Vietnam guess who listened? The government you were trying to get to listen did, because you are a citizen. If you were from say....Tibet, do you think your protest would matter? Hell no.
It is just virtue signalling, makes people like Moonbat and Rana feel better.

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That being the case then you should be welcoming the protests of these Jews- not denigrating their efforts to free Palestine;
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But you're not.

Frankly, only a pro-Israeli ass would take part in the drip-feeding of Gaza's prisoners while the neoZionists collect their billions of dollars in hand-outs. The blockade is illegal, immoral and unacceptable. You should immediately stop supporting it.

But how can there be anyone left to blockade, since you say Israel is practicing genocide?
 
What difference does that make exactly? Why does one need to go there? Personal experience though beneficial is not the only way to become informed on a subject.

Does this hold true then, regarding all the proclamations that men should have no say over what a woman does with her body; ie. abortion?
Seeing as how just being informed on a subject, is enough.
 
Not belittling. At all. The attention they are bringing is meaningless. Nothing other than a feel good moment. Let me clarify. If they did this in front of the Knesset in Israel or HAMAS in Palestine....they might notice. Doing it here means diddly squat. When you protested against Iraq and Vietnam guess who listened? The government you were trying to get to listen did, because you are a citizen. If you were from say....Tibet, do you think your protest would matter? Hell no.
There protest could have an effect on our government, who in turn could have an effect on our policies concerning Israel/Palestine. Protest is never useless in my opinion.
 
It is too bad when people get focused on one side of an issue without seeing the whole picture. Things never get resolved that way.
It is what has happened here in the USA, we only receive news which is favorable to Israel. People do not know the atrocities the Palestinians have suffered. I have informed myself on both sides of the issue and share many of Moon's opinions on the issues. I do not consider myself rabid.
 
It is what has happened here in the USA, we only receive news which is favorable to Israel. People do not know the atrocities the Palestinians have suffered. I have informed myself on both sides of the issue and share many of Moon's opinions on the issues. I do not consider myself rabid.

So that means you are also aware of the atrocities that the Palestinians have committed; but that's not important, is it.
 
So that means you are also aware of the atrocities that the Palestinians have committed; but that's not important, is it.
I very much doubt it. The PLO nearly caused a civil war in Jordan and caused one in Lebanon.

Hamas meanwhile impose Sharia law in Gaza, treat women abysmally, execute homosexuals, use children to dig their tunnels in fact nearly 200 have died. Hamas have spent over $1.5 billion on those tunnels, money that could have been used for bettering the lives of Palestinians. Over 600 millionaires live in Gaza, enriching themselves on the backs of the poor people.

Human rights abuses are commonplace but Rana knows nothing about it, even though she claims to have examined both sides of the issue.
 
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It is what has happened here in the USA, we only receive news which is favorable to Israel. People do not know the atrocities the Palestinians have suffered. I have informed myself on both sides of the issue and share many of Moon's opinions on the issues. I do not consider myself rabid.

I was not inferring you or anyone else is rabid. It was a point of speech only. As far as who is more at fault for the atrocities being committed against each other over there, neither side is innocent by a long shot. This comes down once again to extremists on either side ( a small minority of the populations) and government egos. Not a good combination.
 
America Jews are the true soul of the Judaism worldwide! The vipers inhabiting Israel are imperialist snakes who have nothing to do with Judaism! They are fascists first, Jews never!
 
I very much doubt it. The PLO nearly caused a civil war in Jordan and caused one in Lebanon.

Hamas meanwhile impose Sharia law in Gaza, treat women abysmally, execute homosexuals, use children to dig their tunnels in fact nearly 200 have died. Hamas have spent over $1.5 billion on those tunnels, money that could have been used for bettering the lives of Palestinians. Over 600 millionaires live in Gaza, enriching themselves on the backs of the poor people.

Human rights abuses are commonplace but Rana knows nothing about it, even though she claims to have examined both sides of the issue.

A majority of Jordanians are Palestinian exiles, but they have no representation in Jordan and are locked out of all positions of power. There needs to be a revolution in Jordan and the king needs to lose his head. The Palestinian state will stretch from sea to shining sea once Israel is pushed into the Mediterranean!
 
I very much doubt it. The PLO nearly caused a civil war in Jordan and caused one in Lebanon.

Hamas meanwhile impose Sharia law in Gaza, treat women abysmally, execute homosexuals, use children to dig their tunnels in fact nearly 200 have died. Hamas have spent over $1.5 billion on those tunnels, money that could have been used for bettering the lives of Palestinians. Over 600 millionaires live in Gaza, enriching themselves on the backs of the poor people.

Human rights abuses are commonplace but Rana knows nothing about it, even though she claims to have examined both sides of the issue.

BUT-BUT-BUT; it's all the fault of Israel and the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS.
 
A majority of Jordanians are Palestinian exiles, but they have no representation in Jordan and are locked out of all positions of power. There needs to be a revolution in Jordan and the king needs to lose his head. The Palestinian state will stretch from sea to shining sea once Israel is pushed into the Mediterranean!
I heard that you were in Amman once and he didn't like it!!

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I can see this is over your head. I ask you again, politely, have you ever been to Palestine? Israel? Actually seen what is going on up close or even bothered to do anything other than yap about it on a political board? If you would like to engage in a rational discussion about any of this, I would like to know that I am discussing it with someone on equal footing, not just hearsay and hype.

You are attempting to glorify your stated position of being a jailer of Gazans- or at best a caterer for the neoZionist prison system. Again, the drip-feeding of Palestinian prisoners is merely another aspect of the punt employed by Israel to gain more time while further squats are established and more Palestinians displaced. If you had an iota of respect for the Palestinian state and its people you would not engage with the Israelis at all. You would become a firm proponent of the BDS movement and you would certainly not be denigrating American Jews who have the courage to publicly protest the Israeli crimes which you are supporting.
Forget your ' equal footing ' rhetoric. Your position is just a little less contemptuous than that of the morons drafted into IOF uniforms.

Over my head ?
Take this on board;

sailor; I was not inferring you or anyone else is rabid.

The term is ' implying ' not 'inferring '. There are some here who might talk ' over my head '- but you're not included among them- nor the other easy marks who see your proclaimed fence-squatting as advantageous to their Zionist cause.
 
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You are attempting to glorify your stated position of being a jailer of Gazans- or at best a caterer for the neoZionist prison system. Again, the drip-feeding of Palestinian prisoners is merely another aspect of the punt employed by Israel to gain more time while further squats are established and more Palestinians displaced. If you had an iota of respect for the Palestinian state and its people you would not engage with the Israelis at all. You would become a firm proponent of the BDS movement and you would certainly not be denigrating American Jews who have the courage to publicly protest the Israeli crimes which you are supporting.
Forget your ' equal footing ' rhetoric. Your position is just a little less contemptuous than that of the morons drafted into IOF uniforms.

Over my head ?
Take this on board;



The term is ' implying ' not 'inferring '. There are some here who might talk ' over my head '- but you're not included among them- nor the other easy marks who see your proclaimed fence-squatting as advantageous to their Zionist cause.

Sailor, I told you that the arrogant little cunt wouldn't give you any information. I doubt if the turd has ever been to that region, obviously yet another snowflake that thinks they know everything. You're wasting time and energy on him/her/it. BDS supporters won't be able to go to Israel in future as they have just been banned.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ote-settlements-visas-residency-a7616701.html

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You are attempting to glorify your stated position of being a jailer of Gazans- or at best a caterer for the neoZionist prison system. Again, the drip-feeding of Palestinian prisoners is merely another aspect of the punt employed by Israel to gain more time while further squats are established and more Palestinians displaced. If you had an iota of respect for the Palestinian state and its people you would not engage with the Israelis at all. You would become a firm proponent of the BDS movement and you would certainly not be denigrating American Jews who have the courage to publicly protest the Israeli crimes which you are supporting.
Forget your ' equal footing ' rhetoric. Your position is just a little less contemptuous than that of the morons drafted into IOF uniforms.

Over my head ?
Take this on board;



The term is ' implying ' not 'inferring '. There are some here who might talk ' over my head '- but you're not included among them- nor the other easy marks who see your proclaimed fence-squatting as advantageous to their Zionist cause.

Like I said lad, way over your head. Now when you grow a pair of balls and actually go over there and fucking do something to help your cause instead of hiding behind the safety of a fucking keyboard lamenting about it, come on back and we can discuss this. You would actually have some insight into what actual happens over there, and, gasp, maybe actually help. If you do not piss all over yourself first. Until then you worthless fuck revel in the knowledge that your are spineless. As a parting note, as stated before, should you grow some balls I can, and will, be more than happy to get you over there. My word.
 
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