Hundreds killed at Palestinian hospital.

Confart said:
What did I say that you do not believe is true? You think a callous disregard for human life is a bad thing? Or are you just desperate to try and get one over on me? You should aim MUCH, MUCH lower, son.
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Yes we know you are much much lower. Now go deliver some French fries for Uber Eats because you won't be able to make rent on your trailer if you don't work.
 
BartenderElite said:
How many, Earl? All of 'em? How about all of the children there?

The efforts to dehumanize that whole area are pretty repugnant.
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The majority of Palestinians voted for Hamas to be in control. Parents are responsible for their kids. Parents are allowing schools to teach kids to hate and murder Jews. So if parents don't get there kids out of Gaza it will be their fault if harm comes to them. Allowing your kids to stay in Gaza is like letting them play in the middle of a highway.
 
This isn't that hard.

Hamas perpetrated a heinous attack on Israel. They need to be held accountable for that, and deserve everything that's coming their way.

Palestinians in Gaza - despite what some on Fox & on here are saying - are not Hamas. MANY did not vote for Hamas. MANY are children. MANY do not support the Hamas attack on Israel.

We need to stop generalizing about groups every time something like this happens. The post-9/11 period in the U.S. was terrible for many Muslim-Americans, who experienced "hate by association." It's incredibly simplistic thinking to ascribe guilt to people who just share a religion, or area, or general designation of any kind.

The people of Gaza deserve the assumption of innocence - like we all do.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
There is no moral justification for genocide.
Absolutely none.
That's unfortunately not the issue [or even close to it].

Survival has less than nothing to do with right and wrong.
In situations like this, survival is entirely about us and them.

NOBODY feels the need to justify trying to survive.

The Israelis understand that they will not survive the hatred of the PLO
or HAMAS or whatever they call themselves these days
with anything short of a genocidal approach to dealing with Palestinians.

They've had a lot of time and a lot of experiences to figure that out.

Morality isn't even a consideration.
Not when it comes to surviving.

We know that there are no good guys in the scenario.
The Middle East is the physical manifestation of the theoretical concept of hell.

Sometimes one has to pick a side anyway,
and between the two, I find that easy for me.

I remember where the dancing in the streets took place after 9/11.

It wasn't in Tel Aviv.

Not right or wrong. Us or them.
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You'll never catch me throwing out the babies with the bathwater, and both sides have babies, mothers, and the elderly who would never call for this religious or political war.

SO NO, to any kind of resemblance to genocide.

There are International rules to war, in a civilized FREE world, and I expect the Israelis to abide to them. If they should not, they would not be any better than the Nazis who tried to eradicate them.

Surely you understand that!



Thanks!
 
BartenderElite said:
This isn't that hard.

Hamas perpetrated a heinous attack on Israel. They need to be held accountable for that, and deserve everything that's coming their way.

Palestinians in Gaza - despite what some on Fox & on here are saying - are not Hamas. MANY did not vote for Hamas. MANY are children. MANY do not support the Hamas attack on Israel.

We need to stop generalizing about groups every time something like this happens. The post-9/11 period in the U.S. was terrible for many Muslim-Americans, who experienced "hate by association." It's incredibly simplistic thinking to ascribe guilt to people who just share a religion, or area, or general designation of any kind.

The people of Gaza deserve the assumption of innocence - like we all do.
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I only watch Bret Baier weekdays and Shannon Bream Sundays. Both understand that Hamas is the government of Palestine, but not all Palestinians support Hamas.

Still, there are lots of logical reasons to never start a war. Hamas is finding those reasons out.

Biden made a good speech about the situation today.

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-denoun...now-about-his-tel-aviv-address-164930417.html
Biden denounces Hamas ‘atrocities,’ says Israel must be ‘safe’ for Jews: What you need to know about his Tel Aviv address
The president says Palestinian militants are likely responsible for Tuesday’s deadly attack on a Gaza hospital.
President Biden arrived in Tel Aviv on Wednesday as protests continued across the Arab world over the bombing of a Gaza hospital the previous day, an attack for which the Israeli Defense Force has denied responsibility.

At the same time, Israel continues to bury the dead and grieve over the Oct. 7 terrorist attack by Hamas militants who crossed into southern Israel from Gaza, slaughtering entire families while kidnapping children and the elderly.

Biden’s surprise visit was intended to shore up support of Israel’s expected ground offensive into Gaza, intended to root out Hamas once and for all. At the same time, the president cautioned Israel’s foes in the region from expanding the conflict.

Below are three notable statements from Biden’s speech.

“Rape, beheadings, bodies burned alive. Hamas committed atrocities that recall the worst ravages of ISIS, unleashing pure, unadulterated evil upon the world. There’s no rationalizing it, no excusing it. Period.”

“Israel must once again be a safe place for the Jewish people. And I promise, we’ll do everything in our power to make sure it will be.”


"Based on the information we have seen today, it appears it was a result of an errant rocket fired by a terrorist group in Gaza."
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Althea said:
We all have opinions.

I don't agree, although we've never seen any moment in time when Israel's existence wasn't challenged by its neighbors.

It's a catch 22 that will exist forever.
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My proof is that the Palestinians and terrorism pre-date Israel by centuries. They were pulling the same shit on the Ottoman Empire when they controlled that region, then on the British who took over. They've tried to overthrow the government of Jordan. The Palestinians fight among themselves along political and tribal lines as well.
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
You'll never catch me throwing out the babies with the bathwater, and both sides have babies, mothers, and the elderly who would never call for this religious or political war.

SO NO, to any kind of resemblance to genocide.

There are International rules to war, in a civilized FREE world, and I expect the Israelis to abide to them. If they should not, they would not be any better than the Nazis who tried to eradicate them.

Surely you understand that!



Thanks!
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I do indeed.
I'm just waiting for that civilized world of which you speak.
That would be wonderful.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
I do indeed.
I'm just waiting for that civilized world of which you speak.
That would be wonderful.
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Well, there is a civilized world- and then there is also an uncivilized world.

For the most part, we refer to the FREE WORLD as being the civilized world- our part of it anyway!

I mean, I believe it is our party- the DEMOCRATIC PARTY, that is trying to keep it FREE and Civilized!
 
Geeko Sportivo said:
Well, there is a civilized world- and then there is also an uncivilized world.

For the most part, we refer to the FREE WORLD as being the civilized world- our part of it anyway!

I mean, I believe it is our party- the DEMOCRATIC PARTY, that is trying to keep it FREE and Civilized!
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Your party has the members who are trying to protect the monsters that started this mess.
 
Althea said:
Who the fuck goes through that copy/paste, thinking anyone is going to read it?

The loons on this board aren't capable of reading it, and the sane members simply won't waste time.
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Weenie Dog seems to have an unhealthy obsession with my sex life. I guess it's his way of trying to get my attention. Like a six year old who dips the girls pony tail in the ink well. It didn't work.
 
Concart said:
Weenie Dog seems to have an unhealthy obsession with my sex life. I guess it's his way of trying to get my attention. Like a six year old who dips the girls pony tail in the ink well. It didn't work.
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Most Down Under dumbasses are poorly educated drunks who tend to type one-handed and whose sex life is primarily online.
 
Concart said:
Weenie Dog seems to have an unhealthy obsession with my sex life. I guess it's his way of trying to get my attention. Like a six year old who dips the girls pony tail in the ink well. It didn't work.
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He seems to be envious of every aspect of your life
 
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