How to Wiretap Your Political Opponents

Thing1 said:
No, it wasn't.

It was a lie, and it's still a lie. Unless you can show where Obama ordered it or was involved.
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Do you really think there would be a memo from Obama?

Come on man. Of course they would give him plausible deniability

Are you really that gullible

Ask yourself this question. If they weren't conducting surveillance on Trump or his advisors then where is all this proof of Russian collusion you believe us true coming from
 
I Love America said:
Do you really think there would be a memo from Obama?

Come on man. Of course they would give him plausible deniability

Are you really that gullible

Ask yourself this question. If they weren't conducting surveillance on Trump or his advisors then where is all this proof of Russian collusion you believe us true coming from
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No, he's not that gullible.

But 'Trump lied' requires the narrowest reading possible of the Tweet.
 
tsuke said:
its not a conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory is Trump russia. People attempt to make a connection between Trump and Putin but the one who released the info is wikileaks and they have always leaked stuff. In fact without wikileaks there would be no point discussing Trump Russia. They have maintained from day 1 that it was a leak not a hack (his name was seth rich R.I.P.)

In here you already have an admission by the FBI that they wiretapped someone in the leadership of Trumps campaign. It is impossible not to surveil political information. Its like wire tapping podesta. You will get information about the campaign without even trying. Note that Carter is the ony FISA warrant we know about as well there could be more.
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You've gotten a little defensive since you had your own OP lol.

You misapprehended my point. Jarod is a conspiracy theorist: that he would mock something 'he perceives' to be a conspiracy theory, is amusingly hypocritical.

You're right: it's not a theory that the FBI listened in [note to Thingy and other Trump literalists: 'wiretapped' for all intents] Trump's people. People have admitted it.

There is no competing fact in the Trump-Russia theory. Rather, it's probable that Russia attempted to interfere with the election. It's way, way, way less probable it affected the outcome. And it's highly improbable Trump colluded with the Russians on it.

If there were no political stakes at play, it would have gotten page two media coverage for a few days and then it would have been forgotten. I say that because Obama was chiding Russia over it before the election and hardly anyone remembers.

But Trump won the election, the democrats are pissy and so now it's a big deal. The fact is, other countries trying to mess in other country's elections has been going on for years.

This country does it.
 
Darth Omar said:
You've gotten a little defensive since you had your own OP lol.

You misapprehended my point. Jarod is a conspiracy theorist: that he would mock something 'he perceives' to be a conspiracy theory, is amusingly hypocritical.

You're right: it's not a theory that the FBI listened in [note to Thingy and other Trump literalists: 'wiretapped' for all intents] Trump's people. People have admitted it.

There is no competing fact in the Trump-Russia theory. Rather, it's probable that Russia attempted to interfere with the election. It's way, way, way less probable it affected the outcome. And it's highly improbable Trump colluded with the Russians on it.

If there were no political stakes at play, it would have gotten page two media coverage for a few days and then it would have been forgotten. I say that because Obama was chiding Russia over it before the election and hardly anyone remembers.

But Trump won the election, the democrats are pissy and so now it's a big deal. The fact is, other countries trying to mess in other country's elections has been going on for years.

This country does it.
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well obviously im more important now :good4u:
 
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