How is lack of Baby formula Biden's fault?

Damocles said:
And he repeatedly lied saying that there was no vaccine when he took over, even though he had already received 2 doses before his handlers started running the country.
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The actual quote was available to the public since it was still under testing.

When President Biden took office, millions were unemployed and there was no vaccine available.
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Later they clarified it:
We previously misstated that vaccines were unavailable in January 2021. We should have said that they were not widely available. Vaccines became available shortly before the President came into office. Since then, he’s responsible for fully vaccinating over 200 million people.”
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Yes, I'll agree that it's political spin but it's not a bald-faced like claiming he didn't know Ghislaine Maxwell.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The actual quote was available to the public since it was still under testing.



Yes, I'll agree that it's political spin but it's not a bald-faced like claiming he didn't know Ghislaine Maxwell.
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Yet it was available to the public, and still was a lie. The reality is it was made available before he took office and much of the older folks already had taken it. He lied.
 
BartenderElite said:
You sure about that? Not trying to be snarky - but that WH tweet last week that mistakenly said there was no vaccine when he started was the 1st time I saw that claimed.
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Yeah, we had conversations about his claim, threads with images of him getting the vaccine while hearing the sound of him talking about how there was no vaccine... It was fun. IMHO, this is what began his rather fast drop to below 40% approval. He leapt off the starting line sucking at telling the simple truth.
 
Damocles said:
Yet it was available to the public, and still was a lie. The reality is it was made available before he took office and much of the older folks already had taken it. He lied.
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Available only under Emergency Authorization. I couldn't get one until March 22nd, 2021..and I was over 65. When were you eligible to get your first COVID vaccine?
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Available only under Emergency Authorization. I couldn't get one until March 22nd, 2021..and I was over 65. When were you eligible to get your first COVID vaccine?
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I have previously mentioned that I was among the testing group. I received the Pfizer vaccine before November when it was first added for emergency approval...
 
Damocles said:
His lack of foresight has caused this.

Here is a list of ways the government has caused this particular mess, and an explanation of what the Brandon Administration could have done or should do to fix it:

1. There are only 3 companies that have contracts with WIC for formula, this disincentivizes new companies from producing the vital necessity. Only once there already was a shortage did the Administration actually try to ease the restriction with WIC only paying for the formula from the 3 producers. This one is the fault of the Administration who knew the shortage would come after the recall but literally did nothing at all to fix the problem until there was a problem. What could they have done? Signed some contracts with some new producers or release the requirement of only purchasing formula from one of the 3 with the contract. What did they do? Wait for the problem to come to a head and then suddenly realize that this was one way they could relieve some of the problem.


2. The 17.5% tariff. Once again with supreme lack of foresight, even knowing there would be an issue, the Brandon Administration has done nothing to reduce the disincentive for foreign producers to export any formula to the US. The only person currently working on fixing this one is a republican Senator (Nancy Mace) who has introduced a bill to reduce this at least temporarily.

3. The Defense Production Act, this Act gives the President broad powers to increase productivity during emergencies. While both Trump and Brandon invoked this act to produce items to combat the pandemic, this particular issue (baby formula) happened only under the watch of Brandon who has failed to invoke and so far only has acted too little/too late in his patented anti-Midas touch. As far as I understand Brandon still doesn't think these children are important enough to invoke this provision which would allow him broad powers to aid in production of the vital necessity.

All of these issues will still exist after this particular lack has been restored and a redo of WIC is something we should put on the table. We need to stop limiting the production through these contracts.
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1. Do you have a citation for your claim about WIC contracts? From what I understand there are only three baby formula manufacturers of any significance in the US.

2. Who established a 17.5% tariff?

3. Biden has in fact enacted the DPA.

“President Biden said Wednesday that he is requiring suppliers to send ingredients to infant-formula makers before other customers, invoking the Defense Production Act. The White House also directed government agencies to use Department of Defense commercial aircraft to pick up from overseas infant formula that meets U.S. standards.“ - WSJ
 
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Damocles said:
I have previously mentioned that I was among the testing group. I received the Pfizer vaccine before November when it was first added for emergency approval...
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How the fuck did you get into a test group???

Again, while I agree the statement could be misleading. the fact it wasn't available except under Emergency Authorization does put some credence in it. Still, his staffers caused themselves a lot of unnecessary backlash by trying to spin a win out of it.

IMO, they are panicking because the entire planet is a hot mess; COVID, economy and Putin's War being biggies. His fucked up exit out of Afghanistan will stick to him until he leaves office....sometime after JAN23? LOL

The fact dipshits are blaming Biden for the formula shortage is all part of the mess.
 
Jarod said:
1. Do you have a citation for your claim about WIC contracts? From what I understand there are only three baby formula manufacturers of any significance in the US.

2. Who established a 17.5% tariff?

3. Biden has in fact enacted the DPA.
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The shortage isn't Biden's fault but the correction falls into his lap. Results count. The Republican vote indicates they aren't serious about fixing the problem and are more focused on the Mid-Terms.
 
Jarod said:
1. Do you have a citation for your claim about WIC contracts? From what I understand there are only three baby formula manufacturers of any significance in the US.

2. Who established a 17.5% tariff?

3. Biden has in fact enacted the DPA.
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1. Right. Because of the contracts... Let me see if I can find an article. (here's one: https://time.com/6177128/baby-formula-congress-monopoly-abbott/ )
Roughly half to two-thirds of formula purchased in the U.S. is bought through WIC, according to government estimates. With so many low-income parents relying on formula, the move by Congress led to the bid winners in each state dominating the formula market there. That spurred the kind of intense consolidation in the U.S. formula industry that has not been seen in many other parts of the world.

Since the single-contract rule was established more than 30 years ago, only three companies–Abbott, Gerber, and Mead Johnson—have received those WIC contracts. Their control over the market has disincentivized the creation of new brands, which is why the recent loss of Abbott’s products from store shelves has left many parents with few alternatives.
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The other two were actually talked about in this article too. I'm quite surprised. While the article does try to partially blame "no paid national family leave" as they couldn't entirely avoid partisanship, it largely does give good information.

Both sides of the political aisle had to push Brandon to invoke the DPA... because he'd still be sitting on his hands waiting for the teleprompter if they hadn't gotten his handlers to think.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The shortage isn't Biden's fault but the correction falls into his lap. Results count. The Republican vote indicates they aren't serious about fixing the problem and are more focused on the Mid-Terms.
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Those who believe in pure capitalism, nothing that resembles Socialism at all, Should be calling for a total hands off approach from the government. Yet they are many of the same people who are blaming Biden.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
How the fuck did you get into a test group???

Again, while I agree the statement could be misleading. the fact it wasn't available except under Emergency Authorization does put some credence in it. Still, his staffers caused themselves a lot of unnecessary backlash by trying to spin a win out of it.

IMO, they are panicking because the entire planet is a hot mess; COVID, economy and Putin's War being biggies. His fucked up exit out of Afghanistan will stick to him until he leaves office....sometime after JAN23? LOL

The fact dipshits are blaming Biden for the formula shortage is all part of the mess.
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I volunteered for it, and was accepted. I had to go in often for blood tests, etc. it was actually more work than I thought it would be. But I got an effective vaccine before it was ever approved for emergency use. LOL
 
Of course, there are baby formula shortages.

Too many idiots thought themselves worthy of breeding.

We're ass deep in unnecessary little ones, not that it's in any way their fault, and we don't know how to handle it.

Overturning Roe v. Wade will only make things worse in the shitkicker states.

I wish those fucking rubes would learn to throw a bag on it.
 
Damocles said:
1. Right. Because of the contracts... Let me see if I can find an article. (here's one: https://time.com/6177128/baby-formula-congress-monopoly-abbott/ )


The other two were actually talked about in this article too. I'm quite surprised. While the article does try to partially blame "no paid national family leave" as they couldn't entirely avoid partisanship, it largely does give good information.

Both sides of the political aisle had to push Brandon to invoke the DPA... because he'd still be sitting on his hands waiting for the teleprompter if they hadn't gotten his handlers to think.
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So you do believe socialism can help solve some problems?
 
Jarod said:
Those who believe in pure capitalism, nothing that resembles Socialism at all, Should be calling for a total hands off approach from the government. Yet they are many of the same people who are blaming Biden.
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The hypocrisy flowing through American politics is at peak levels. When politicians are advocating violence in the streets, it's only a matter of time before some people are stupid enough to follow that advice.
 
Damocles said:
I volunteered for it, and was accepted. I had to go in often for blood tests, etc. it was actually more work than I thought it would be. But I got an effective vaccine before it was ever approved for emergency use. LOL
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Thanks for going through the trouble to volunteer. Without people like you it would have been hard to certify the vaccine for general use and make it available to everyone. <----see what I did there? ;)
 
Dutch Uncle said:
The hypocrisy flowing through American politics is at peak levels. When politicians are advocating violence in the streets, it's only a matter of time before some people are stupid enough to follow that advice.
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With BLM/Antifa the violence was instant and went on for many months, and it horrifically destructive.
 
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