Damn right I did; you have to be a retarded dullard to have voted for Al Gore or Kerry.
Neither, thanks, I was really smart!
Damn right I did; you have to be a retarded dullard to have voted for Al Gore or Kerry.
you aren't an Obama-hater; that's why you don't get it.
Obama can't do anything right in the eyes of those who hate him
Neither, thanks, I was really smart!
You couldn't be really smart if you were handed the brains to fill that empty skull of yours.
At they very least, one should explain what Obama has done that he should not have done or what he should have done differently. I haven't really seen any assessment that does that.
Must one hate him to not approve of how he's handle this situation? Or is it either you say he's done an excellent job or you hate him no other options?
So the problem is that Kerry said something that led to the possibility to achieve the stated goals without military action? Why is that a problem? What should Kerry have done? Said that there was nothing Assad could do to prevent the United States from striking militarily?
I don't get it.
My skull must be fuller than yours, I didn't vote for Bush TWICE, lol
Do you live in a closet? Obama should never have engaged in his ineffectual hawk like rhetoric drawing a red line he didn't first have support for. How hard is this?
It was painful to walk this inept buffoon of a President saunter up to the podium unrehearsed to bluster tough about Syria.
But alas, not only could Obama NOT support his red line rhetoric, but then he walked away from it by claiming it was everyone else's fault. How dense, uninformed, stupid, retarded and partisan does one have to be to continue to support this moron?
It is the epitome of irony when the dullard left and Libertarians spent every waking moment blaming Bush for everything wrong in the world when Bush was a true leader; something Obama will never achieve in his pathetic community organizer life.
First some conservatives bitched because he wasn't going to congress; then they bitched because he was going to congress; then they bitched because a non-military solution was found.
Those who can't see anything good no matter what he does are haters.
Those who may disagree with the policy but say something like "glad he's going to congress" or even "it's great that we may have a diplomatic solution" (even if no credit is given to Obama) may not be haters.
But those that blast every action regardless are haters.
At they very least, one should explain what Obama has done that he should not have done or what he should have done differently. I haven't really seen any assessment that does that.
THought I'd requote this since I don't think anyone has answered this.
Truth Deflector; "Bush was a true leader"
What a moron.
First off I'm glad we are negotiating a diplomatic settlement and I hope it sticks. For me personally I don't want the U.S. to bomb or go into Syria. After Obama made his red line comment though I changed my belief that if the President draws a line he has to stick with him for his, and our country's, credibility and therefore I would support it. I did not care for Obama later saying 'I didn't draw the line the world did'. That backtracking looked week in my opinion. Say it if he meant it otherwise don't say it.
My recollection is before Britain voted they would take no action Obama didn't speak about needing to go to Congress. Imo, he was ready to act without Congress if Britain gave its approval. Once Britain said no he changed course and said 'while I don't need to go to Congress to take action, I will.' It just came across as not strong leadership to me.
I don't think Obama wanted to go into (bomb) Syria at all and it showed in his handling of this whole mess. Once he made his 'red line' comment he stuck his neck out too far too back away. Congress gave him a potential out if they would vote down any military activity. And I believe he luckily backed into this proposal with Kerry and Putin. I hope it works out for the best but I don't think it shows the U.S. in a position of strength.
I know it's easy to sit back and complain about someone's actions after the fact especially when you don't offer any suggestions of your own. I make no claims to being a foreign policy expert and that if I were in charge we should have done a,b and c and we wouldn't be in this mess if we had. But I believe myself knowledgable enough to have an idea about leadership and how others view our actions that this has been handled poorly.
I am well aware I am not Obama's number one supporter so feel free to discount what I say as you please. But while I disagree with many of his policies I do not hate the man nor do I root for bad outcomes to happen in foreign affairs to the U.S. to score 'political points'.
My two second thoughts now please excuse me while I go back to my Lane Kiffin hating.
First off I'm glad we are negotiating a diplomatic settlement and I hope it sticks. For me personally I don't want the U.S. to bomb or go into Syria. After Obama made his red line comment though I changed my belief that if the President draws a line he has to stick with him for his, and our country's, credibility and therefore I would support it. I did not care for Obama later saying 'I didn't draw the line the world did'. That backtracking looked week in my opinion. Say it if he meant it otherwise don't say it.
My recollection is before Britain voted they would take no action Obama didn't speak about needing to go to Congress. Imo, he was ready to act without Congress if Britain gave its approval. Once Britain said no he changed course and said 'while I don't need to go to Congress to take action, I will.' It just came across as not strong leadership to me.
I don't think Obama wanted to go into (bomb) Syria at all and it showed in his handling of this whole mess. Once he made his 'red line' comment he stuck his neck out too far too back away. Congress gave him a potential out if they would vote down any military activity. And I believe he luckily backed into this proposal with Kerry and Putin. I hope it works out for the best but I don't think it shows the U.S. in a position of strength.
I'm just going to go ahead and vigorously disagree with you on both counts here. And frankly, I don't understand why (1) if you disagree with the red line comment in the first instance (2) you similarly disagree with what you viewed as backing down from it; and (3) if you thing Obama should have gone to Congress (4) you think it was wrong for him to have gone to Congress; and (5) if you don't want the US to bomb syria (6) you think that the current situation, where the United States may achieve its desired ends without bombing Syria, is the product of weak leadership where "stong leadership," as you've framed it, surely would not have led to the same place.
This view of "strong leadership" as being equivalent to sticking to stupid, wrong shit even though it's stupid and wrong is just baffling to me, particularly here, where "weak leadership" might lead to a better outcome.
I was ok with the red line comment if that's what he truly felt. Like I said my preference would be to not get involved but once Obama laid out that marker and it was crossed (I guess that could technically still be waiting to be determined) then I back(ed) him going in. I didn't care for him walking away from that comment with his the world drew the line remark.
I'm aware President's take military action without Congress. I don't believe I said anything prior about him having to go to Congress. To me if he was going to take action then just do it. Partisans will bitch because that's what partisans do. They'll complain no matter what you (any President, but specifically now Obama) do. The backtracking looked weak to me.
I realize nothing is simple in events like this. Obama can't just snap his fingers and produce a desirable outcome in a moments notice. I want a good result here but I also realize how we handle this event will play a roll in determining future actions both by ourselves and by others. Hence my desire for the U.S. to not look like it got pushed around and weak.
But that's the thing. I don't understand why the US looks like it got pushed around and weak by not taking military action when it looks like a better outcome than military action could have achieved may be attainable.
Also, too, I have to disagree on the idea that he backed down from the red line thing. It seems to me that the whole "the world drew the red line" was just an matter of framing the issue to garner support internationally and from Congress.