How do we fight modern day war, such as ISIS?

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Do we fight them as we did our enemies in WWII? ISIS does not adhere to any conventions about war, but we are bound and we try not to kill civilians.

How do we fight enemies like ISIS?
 
pretty much the way we are doing it now.. I have lots of complaints about Obama calling ISIS "JV" and ignoring the threat
But they came across the right policy- US bombs/special forces, but with local troops on the ground.
For sure there needs improvement -directly arming the Kurds instead of going thru Baghdad.
And Iraq is turning into a colony if Iran. But for the war against ISIS -it's working, and it's the only path that does
 
You make the cost to them greater then any reward they may seem to be getting.

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pretty much the way we are doing it now.. I have lots of complaints about Obama calling ISIS "JV" and ignoring the threat
But they came across the right policy- US bombs/special forces, but with local troops on the ground.
For sure there needs improvement -directly arming the Kurds instead of going thru Baghdad.
And Iraq is turning into a colony if Iran. But for the war against ISIS -it's working, and it's the only path that does

I agree that what Obama is doing now is more or less effective at containing ISIS. Kind of in the same sense that someone who alerts the fire department once the kitchen is on fire is doing the proper thing lol.

In other words, had Obama pressured the Iraqis into keeping a US presence in Iraq, ISIS wouldn't have taken Iraq. Or if he wouldn't have minimized ISIS [either for political purposes or ignorance] they could have been easily defeated before they got established in Iraq. Then ISIS would be just another Islamic terrorist group that flies under the radar. There's a bunch of them.

But here we are.

I don't think there's any pat answers for how to defeat radical Islam. Somewhere between scorched earth and denial is where it lies. Ultimately, it's going to require help from Muslims probably in the form of some sort of reformation within Islam, itself. Nothing the current administration is doing or has done is productive in that regard. Much of it has been counter productive, in fact.

Trump caught all sorts of grief for proposing a ban on Muslim immigrants [immigrants as defined by Merriam Webster lol, lol]. Lately, he softened his stance but in a sense it doesn't matter. Because in the bigger picture, the message was sent to the global Muslim community that the time is long past for some introspection on their part---and within their own community.

Neither Obama or Trump has the answer and if Hillary had it we'd know by now. But of the three Trump is 'more right', as it were.

Liberal bed wetting, notwithstanding lol.
 
^ you could go in heavy (boots) if it was a counter-terrorism destroy and leave. The problem is once we do that we have a tendency
to want to stay and manage the aftermath -and whatever we do the regional states generally willnot.

The final endgame is Islamic reformation -agreed.
 
^ you could go in heavy (boots) if it was a counter-terrorism destroy and leave. The problem is once we do that we have a tendency
to want to stay and manage the aftermath -and whatever we do the regional states generally willnot.

The final endgame is Islamic reformation -agreed.

Indeed.

But going in is easy. Even in our weakened military state we can go in and clean ISIS's clocks. But getting out [the M.E. Is like a tar baby in that regard] has always been the hard part. Also, it would cost US lives and treasure so we lack the political will.

Probably rightly so.

No way to know for sure, but Trump's non-ideological tendencies may be an advantage if he does become president: he's not locked-in to the neo-con approach; nor does he share in some of the naïveté that afflicts some of our recent policies in the region. He seems more of a pragmatist that would be most apt to stick with what works and/or abandon what doesn't.

Maybe we'll find out, maybe we won't lol.
 
^ you could go in heavy (boots) if it was a counter-terrorism destroy and leave. The problem is once we do that we have a tendency
to want to stay and manage the aftermath -and whatever we do the regional states generally willnot.

The final endgame is Islamic reformation -agreed.

Shut up ignorant shitstain.
 
Do we fight them as we did our enemies in WWII? ISIS does not adhere to any conventions about war, but we are bound and we try not to kill civilians.

How do we fight enemies like ISIS?

You don't. You cut your (tremendous) losses and get the fuck out.
You like how Afganistan turned out forthe USSR?
We did no better. No one ever has in all of history.

Bin Ladin's greatest success was provoking "the long war".
He destroyed the USSR, and he is makingdamned good progess destroying the US.

There will never be progress in the ME. NOTHING has changed their in untold millenia.
The Semites are a hatefull culture of deathworshippers
(Including theJews, their history is one of endless war, murder and enslavery) Some things never change.
 
^ you could go in heavy (boots) if it was a counter-terrorism destroy and leave. The problem is once we do that we have a tendency
to want to stay and manage the aftermath -and whatever we do the regional states generally willnot.

The final endgame is Islamic reformation -agreed.

You mean like you are acusing Obama of not doing in Libya?
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You mean like you are acusing Obama of not doing in Libya?
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man you need English lessons...what are you trying to say? Please construct a sentence that is explanatory.

I have no idea of what yu are attempting to referenec
 
^ you could go in heavy (boots) if it was a counter-terrorism destroy and leave. The problem is once we do that we have a tendency
to want to stay and manage the aftermath -and whatever we do the regional states generally willnot.

The final endgame is Islamic reformation -agreed.

I think Islam cannot be saved anymore. There has to be a cultural front to the war where we encourage as many people as possible to convert to any other religion. Anytime we do that the terrorists get weaker. If for instance Islam was so small that only terrorists adhered to it then they would lose most of their special protections.
 
pretty much the way we are doing it now.. I have lots of complaints about Obama calling ISIS "JV" and ignoring the threat
But they came across the right policy- US bombs/special forces, but with local troops on the ground.
For sure there needs improvement -directly arming the Kurds instead of going thru Baghdad.
And Iraq is turning into a colony if Iran. But for the war against ISIS -it's working, and it's the only path that does

What qualifies you to judge idiot?
Nothing.
You are a war mongering fool.

We are NOT defeating ISIS byany means FOOL.

EVVERYSINGLE THING WE DO IN THE ME ENLARGES THE TERRORIST FORCES. YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

THE ENTIRE REGION IS IN FLAMES AND LONG WAR IS WHY.
 
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