House Renews Patriot Act

Dixie said:
*sigh*

1) The Founding Fathers.
2) The States
3) The People
4) The Government

No one has argued ANY of that!

What in the fuck do I have to do to get you people to stop formulating arguments on my behalf and arguing against things I haven't ever argued? It's ridiculous! Every day, almost every left-wing poster, is doing this on a routine basis, and it's getting really old! Stick to what the fuck I said, and stop pretending that I've said shit I would never say! Did you fuckwits get together in your little social group and decide that no matter what Dixie says, make his argument into something crazy and off the wall, so we can all jump in and "prove Dixie WRONG" on something? I don't get it? That's about the only explanation I can come up with for this delusional silliness!
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well, your first stupid mistake was classifying me as a left wing anything.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
well, your first stupid mistake was classifying me as a left wing anything.
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Sorry, but if you are part of the bunch that whines and moans about the Patriot Act being a "violation of our Constitutional rights" and stuff, you may as well be a card carrying member of the Democrat party, as far as I'm concerned. You are an enabler, and whether you thought you were being "libertarian" or whatever, the support you provided to these nitwits, was what ultimately gave us the Socialist in Chief who is currently dismantling America before our very eyes.
 
Taichiliberal said:
Now, that being said, are you okay with the Bill of Rights/Constitution bending Patriot Act powers in the hand of what the neocon driven GOP punditry decribes as Obama's socialist agenda?
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nothing wrong with the powers, just something wrong with the idiot in power.....fortunately the courts will keep him in line.....
 
Why is dixie such a nazi fuck. He wants us all to be bound and forced to worship his vague, new age and all powerful god.
 
AssHatZombie said:
Why is dixie such a nazi fuck. He wants us all to be bound and forced to worship his vague, new age and all powerful god.
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Yes, that's it! I want to stick a gun to your head and force you to pray and worship the god I know, because that will make you good and righteous. You would no longer be a heathen and immoral hypocrite, you would immediately be blessed by my god, because even though you were being forced at gunpoint to worship him, he would realize that in your heart of hearts, you were doing the right thing. This would make me feel good because I would know that forcing you by threat of blowing your brains out, was a noble and just thing to do, and my god would be happy with me for doing it. I would also want to force you to read passages from The Bible, even though my god doesn't really care if you do, I would just like to hear you reading them out loud, so I would make you do this for me, because that would also please my god. It's the only way I can get into heaven, you see, to make you do these things against your will. Also, I would want you to make me cocktails, so I could get trashed while I listen to your read The Bible and pray. And from now on, I am only going to vote for politicians who will see to it that is passed into law as soon as possible. Sorry if I spoiled your rant, but might as well just come out and admit the truth now, so we can get to the Bible reading and praying at gunpoint. You do know how to make an Old Fashioned, right?
:burn:
 
Taichiliberal said:
Now, that being said, are you okay with the Bill of Rights/Constitution bending Patriot Act powers in the hand of what the neocon driven GOP punditry decribes as Obama's socialist agenda? Because as I and Christie pointed out to your cohorts, we aren't.
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Yes, I'm OK with the Bill of Rights controlling legislative acts such as the Patriot...
 
Dixie said:
Sorry, but if you are part of the bunch that whines and moans about the Patriot Act being a "violation of our Constitutional rights" and stuff, you may as well be a card carrying member of the Democrat party, as far as I'm concerned. You are an enabler, and whether you thought you were being "libertarian" or whatever, the support you provided to these nitwits, was what ultimately gave us the Socialist in Chief who is currently dismantling America before our very eyes.
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It is a violation of our rights, you nazi cunt.
 
AssHatZombie said:
I see you've abandoned rationality.
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Well you would certainly be the foremost expert on that!

Look... The Patriot Act does not give the CIA and FBI any power they didn't already utilize on a regular basis. Since the days of J. Edgar, if the Government wants to know your business, they can and will get all in your koolaid, and they don't need your permission to do it. This measure was specifically designed to allow them access legally, to obtain specific information regarding terrorist activities in the US. They don't really give a shit if I am talking to my mistress about an illicit affair, but even IF they eavesdropped on such a conversation, what "right" have they really violated? If me and the mistress aren't planning to fly a plane into a building, what difference does it make?

We go to the airports, and have literally every personal possession scrutinized, including our own bodies, and you could say our "rights" are being violated there... but the alternative is for all of us to get on a plane without any real security measure, just take your chances that you may die at the hands of a terrorist. Is that acceptable? In the name of "not violating our rights" do we stupidly restrict common sense security measures designed to protect us? No, because most of us realize it is important for them to be able to screen passengers and at least make an attempt to stop nefarious activity. The only real difference in the Patriot Act is, it's far less intrusive and inconvenient. You don't even know they are checking you out! Would I like it better if they didn't need to do this? Of course! Just as I would like it better if we could board an airplane without a body cavity search!

The Patriot Act doesn't violate your rights, it helps protect your Constitutional right to LIFE! It helps the Government do what it is charged with doing, protect the American people against a very real threat. This is why Bush signed it into law, and why Obama renewed it! This is why a Republican congress passed it, and a Democrat congress didn't rescind it!
 
Dixie said:
Well you would certainly be the foremost expert on that!

Look... The Patriot Act does not give the CIA and FBI any power they didn't already utilize on a regular basis. Since the days of J. Edgar, if the Government wants to know your business, they can and will get all in your koolaid, and they don't need your permission to do it. This measure was specifically designed to allow them access legally, to obtain specific information regarding terrorist activities in the US. They don't really give a shit if I am talking to my mistress about an illicit affair, but even IF they eavesdropped on such a conversation, what "right" have they really violated? If me and the mistress aren't planning to fly a plane into a building, what difference does it make?

We go to the airports, and have literally every personal possession scrutinized, including our own bodies, and you could say our "rights" are being violated there... but the alternative is for all of us to get on a plane without any real security measure, just take your chances that you may die at the hands of a terrorist. Is that acceptable? In the name of "not violating our rights" do we stupidly restrict common sense security measures designed to protect us? No, because most of us realize it is important for them to be able to screen passengers and at least make an attempt to stop nefarious activity. The only real difference in the Patriot Act is, it's far less intrusive and inconvenient. You don't even know they are checking you out! Would I like it better if they didn't need to do this? Of course! Just as I would like it better if we could board an airplane without a body cavity search!

The Patriot Act doesn't violate your rights, it helps protect your Constitutional right to LIFE! It helps the Government do what it is charged with doing, protect the American people against a very real threat. This is why Bush signed it into law, and why Obama renewed it! This is why a Republican congress passed it, and a Democrat congress didn't rescind it!
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Bullshit. Stop lying, you nazi cunt.
 
Dixie said:
Look... The Patriot Act does not give the CIA and FBI any power they didn't already utilize on a regular basis. Since the days of J. Edgar, if the Government wants to know your business, they can and will get all in your koolaid, and they don't need your permission to do it. This measure was specifically designed to allow them access legally, to obtain specific information regarding terrorist activities in the US. They don't really give a shit if I am talking to my mistress about an illicit affair, but even IF they eavesdropped on such a conversation, what "right" have they really violated? If me and the mistress aren't planning to fly a plane into a building, what difference does it make?
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Dixie just exposed himself as a liberal. :eek:
 
SmarterThanYou said:
Dixie just exposed himself as a liberal. :eek:
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Not really... You see, it is the Liberals and Libertarians who fear the Patriot Act, obviously because they are doing something or think they will be doing something that they shouldn't be doing, and they don't want anyone to find out about it. Us conservatives are decent law-abiding citizens who have nothing to hide, thus, we aren't afraid of the Patriot Act, and we see no problem if the Government needs to check us out to make sure we aren't terrorists.
 
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