Hottest Day on Record Was Day Before Yesterday

domer76 said:
CO2 levels are at their highest level in a few hundred thousand years. Started with the Industrial Revolution.

Or were you ignorant of that fact, as well?
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So? CO2 is a tiny, miniscule, fraction of the atmosphere. Double next to nothing is still nothing. I'd add, what about methane? What about water vapor, both as a gas and as clouds?
 
Gondwanaland said:
hottest 'recorded' day.

We've only had global temperature monitoring since the 70s, and only really reliable monitoring since maybe the 80s. That's 50 years max of recorded global temps to have an accurate reading. Meanwhile, what we do know is that the 30s were likely the hottest decade in recent history.
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Logic on the Right: there is "only reliable monitoring since maybe the 80's" but "Meanwhile we do know the 30's were likely the hottest decade in recent history."
 
T. A. Gardner said:
So? CO2 is a tiny, miniscule, fraction of the atmosphere. Double next to nothing is still nothing. I'd add, what about methane? What about water vapor, both as a gas and as clouds?
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Yep. What about them?

CO2 is 400+ ppm. Highest in a couple hundred thousand years. High CO2 levels have historically been associated with higher global temperatures. And those CO2 levels are due to man’s contributions

Water vapor, presence is dependent on temperature. Almost none in upper atmosphere where methane and CO2 can do their jobs.

Methane. 20-80x the greenhouse gas CO2 is. Agriculture is the greatest contributor. Despite what some right wing sites tell you, it does not “compete” with CO2 or water vapor to absorb IR. It absorbs at a different wavelength in the IR spectrum.

Now, instead of spouting off and demonstrating your ignorance on the subject, do a little fucking homework.
 
martin said:
Logic on the Right: there is "only reliable monitoring since maybe the 80's" but "Meanwhile we do know the 30's were likely the hottest decade in recent history."
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He’s referring to the Dust Bowl years in the plains of the US. It was isolated to that area and in Canada. NOT a world wide phenomenon.

The Dust Bowl was an anomaly of several factors including crop mismanagement and drought that created a furnace like situation in the Midwest. Not to be confused with the worldwide stuff we’re seeing now.

So, another post out of ignorance.
 
domer76 said:
Yep. What about them?

CO2 is 400+ ppm. Highest in a couple hundred thousand years. High CO2 levels have historically been associated with higher global temperatures. And those CO2 levels are due to man’s contributions

Water vapor, presence is dependent on temperature. Almost none in upper atmosphere where methane and CO2 can do their jobs.

Methane. 20-80x the greenhouse gas CO2 is. Agriculture is the greatest contributor. Despite what some right wing sites tell you, it does not “compete” with CO2 or water vapor to absorb IR. It absorbs at a different wavelength in the IR spectrum.

Now, instead of spouting off and demonstrating your ignorance on the subject, do a little fucking homework.
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Such a nasty cunt whistle.
 
martin said:
Logic on the Right: there is "only reliable monitoring since maybe the 80's" but "Meanwhile we do know the 30's were likely the hottest decade in recent history."
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You're such a ignorant peasant, the Left is obsessed with politics yet loves to call any climate sceptics right wing.
 
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serendipity said:
Such a nasty cunt whistle.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^
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This explains what's really going on. An extremely low NAO index, weak trade winds and an El Nino potentially as powerful as 1998. Of course the assorted climate cuntwhistles prefer just to blame it all on CO2.

Negative NAO anomalies correspond to negative subtropical sea level pressure anomalies and weak trade winds to the south. Weak trades warm the underlying sea surface primarily by hindering evaporative cooling, but affect tropical SSTs through several complementary mechanisms, simultaneously favoring warming through reductions in stratocumulus cloudiness, Saharan dust advection, upper-ocean mixing and coastal upwelling off NW Africa. Overall, the turbulent flux associated with weak winds has dominated over the shortwave flux in warming the Atlantic.

https://judithcurry.com/2023/07/02/...-temperatures-in-the-north-atlantic/#comments
 
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domer76 said:
Ya see, dumbfuck, when the world was barely populated by humans, or even not at all, climate issues like we’re seeing now, weren’t a big deal. Humans migrated when necessary.

But you see, now there are 8 BILLION people on the planet and that old migration thing ain’t the same.

But, you’re too fucking stupid to figure that out.
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There is no such thing as a 'climate issue', other than as a religious chanting.
Current migratory behavior in human beings are the so-called 'snowbirds', or people that travel to warmer locations for the winter.
 
domer76 said:
He’s referring to the Dust Bowl years in the plains of the US. It was isolated to that area and in Canada. NOT a world wide phenomenon.

The Dust Bowl was an anomaly of several factors including crop mismanagement and drought that created a furnace like situation in the Midwest. Not to be confused with the worldwide stuff we’re seeing now.

So, another post out of ignorance.
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Correct. It was a globally localized heat wave, worse even in the upper Midwest than the dust bowl region. These people find the record book useful only to cherry-pick from.
 
martin said:
According to your link it knows what I said is known about that globally localized heat wave. Thank you for the confirmation.
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Such an arsehole

Spring and summer of 1934 brought by far the hottest weather, the most severe drought and the worst
dust storms the country east of the Rocky Mountains has ever experienced in its climatological history.

By late August, 24 states with a population of more than 27 millions had been seriously affected. Never before had there been so little rain over so wide a territory throughout
the growing season. Like the depression, the drought made itself felt as an international disaster. The list of
countries in the line-up reads almost
like a roster of the world's best
farm lands.

Extent of drought zone.—Roughly
speaking, the drought zone extends from the interior of Russia across Germany and the Danube Basin,
across France, the North Atlantic Ocean, the United States, and Canada. Within this vast zone there
were damp spots, but as a whole it was deficient in moisture. In a measure, Argentina and Australia have
somewhat the same story to tell.
Unusually high spring and summer temperatures. — "The excess above normal temperature in many
places was nearly twice as great as that for the previous warmest summer of record.
New high temperatures were recorded early, and the
number of days with 100° F or over was exceptional at a large number of his article is based on observations of
the writer on several journeys through the
drought area during the past five vears, the
most recent being in October, 1934, and on
material received from several sources by the
EDITOR of the BULLETIN.
 
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Amendment noted, with an emphasis on drought rather than heat other than "unusually high spring and summer temperatures in many places". There is no suggestion the period was the global warmest ever recorded, nor is it regarded as such by the science community at large.
 
serendipity said:
Such an arsehole

Spring and summer of 1934 brought by far the hottest weather, the most severe drought and the worst
dust storms the country east of the Rocky Mountains has ever experienced in its climatological history.

By late August, 24 states with a population of more than 27 millions had been seriously affected. Never before had there been so little rain over so wide a territory throughout
the growing season. Like the depression, the drought made itself felt as an international disaster. The list of
countries in the line-up reads almost
like a roster of the world's best
farm lands.

Extent of drought zone.—Roughly
speaking, the drought zone extends from the interior of Russia across Germany and the Danube Basin,
across France, the North Atlantic Ocean, the United States, and Canada. Within this vast zone there
were damp springs , but as a whole it was deficient in moisture. In a measure, Argentina and Australia have
somewhat the same story to tell.
Unusually high spring and summer temperatures. — "The excess above normal temperature in many
places was nearly twice as great as that for the previous warmest summer of record.
New high temperatures were recorded early, and the
number of days with 100° F or over was exceptional at a large number of his article is based on observations of
the writer on several journeys through the
drought area during the past five vears, the
most recent being in October, 1934, and on
material received from several sources by the
EDITOR of the BULLETIN.
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Indeed.

Poor Marty, wrong again.

He misused the “globally localized” phrase too.


https://www.optimizely.com › insights › blog › the-co...
Apr 6, 2022 — Global localization is the business practice of adapting a brand's message or product to the local language, culture and customs. Localization ...
 
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martin said:
Amendment noted, with an emphasis on drought rather than heat other than "unusually high spring and summer temperatures in many places". There is no suggestion the period was the global warmest ever recorded, nor is it regarded as such by the science community at large.
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Give it a rest and actually read up.about the 30s!

The 1930s (the Dust Bowl years) are remembered as the driest and warmest decade for the United States, and the summer of 1936 featured the most widespread and destructive heat wave to occur in the Americas in centuries.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/193...s (the Dust Bowl,in the Americas in centuries.
 
martin said:
So flows the crap from climate true believers.

The 1930's was cooler globally than any decade long period since 1980, the decade plus years from 2010 being warmer than any similarly measured period before.

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature


https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/climate-change-global-temperature
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Give it up, Marty.

Enough of the school yard obfuscation.

You were wrong…again.

Poor Marty.
 
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