hostage release agreement

PostmodernProphet

PostmodernProphet

fully immersed in faith..
so I see on the news Israel and Hamas have an agreement....
Hamas will release 50 hostages......is that because the rest are dead?.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
so I see on the news Israel and Hamas have an agreement....
Hamas will release 50 hostages......is that because the rest are dead?.....
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Most. I'm sure they are holding some back.

Ceasefires only allow Hamas to collect their dead, heal their wounded and rearm from Iran before going back to terrorism. If the "innocent" Palestinians are smart, they'll get the fuck out of Gaza before the war resumes. I have no sympathy for those who remain behind since it's tacit support of Hamas and other antisemites.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
so I see on the news Israel and Hamas have an agreement....
Hamas will release 50 hostages......is that because the rest are dead?.....
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Many are probably dead, but others are being held for more concessions. Releasing all the hostages for only four days would be a poor strategic decision.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
Walt said:
Many are probably dead, but others are being held for more concessions. Releasing all the hostages for only four days would be a poor strategic decision.
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taking hostages in the first place was an immoral decision....
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Agreed, but that was the main plan to facilitate a prisoner exchange. The second plan was raping and murdering women and babies.

If it was up to me, I'd be planting a tracker inside all the Palestinian terrorists being released, watch their movements for a few weeks then bomb the shit out of all of them.
 
Walt said:
Yes, taking hostages and holding them is immoral. Have you just discovered that Hamas is immoral?
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Not to mention all the raping and murders of women and children.

The fact the Euros bitch and moan about Gaza but haven't shed a single tear for all the Israelis raped and murdered on October 7th causes me to have zero respect for them.

https://www.newsweek.com/silence-in...mass-rapes-betrayal-all-women-opinion-1845783
The Silence From International Bodies Over Hamas' Mass Rapes Is a Betrayal of All Women
Two days after the horrific Hamas attack of October 7, I met Rotem, a young mother of two small children from a Kibbutz on the Gaza border. I held my breath as she recounted how she ran with her children to hide while terrorists rampaged through their home, how they made it to the safe room and desperately held the door, praying the terrorists wouldn't enter.

Her terror echoed accounts I've heard from abused women, except now the threat was not from a violent husband. And Rotem was not alone; she is one of thousands of Israeli women who simultaneously faced murder and rape by Hamas terrorists on that fateful day.

At the President of Israel's Residence in Jerusalem, we are preparing for the day the United Nations General Assembly has designated the International Day for the Prevention of Violence against Women, which is observed every November 25. Every year, I host victims, civil-society leaders, activists, and scholars committed to women's rights and safety on this day.

But this year will be different. Many things changed on October 7 when thousands of Hamas terrorists massacred Israeli families, burnt children and the elderly, and kidnapped hostages. This deeply impacted our visceral understanding of the cruelty of gender-based sexual violence—and our faith in the international organizations that claim to care about women.

It took me several days to grasp the monstrous nature and scale of violence suffered specifically by women on October 7. My first realization came when meeting volunteers of the Association of Rape Crisis Centers who discreetly told me of conversations with survivors. They heard testimonies that shocked them to the core.

At the Nova music festival, where more than 350 young people were slaughtered and dozens kidnapped, witnesses hiding in the bushes saw terrorists gang-rape, then murder and mutilate women. A Hamas video from a kibbutz shows terrorists torturing a pregnant woman and removing her fetus. Our forensic scientists have found bodies of women and girls raped with such violence that their pelvic bones were broken. Those of us unlucky enough to have seen video evidence broadcast by the terrorists themselves witnessed the body of a naked woman paraded through Gaza, and another, still alive, in bloodied pants held captive at gunpoint being pulled into a jeep by her hair. This evidence, along with the explicit recorded confessions of captured terrorists, makes abundantly clear that mass rape was a premeditated part of Hamas's plan....

...In the 1990s, international agencies and legal experts finally began to see violence against women as a particular category of war crime. Organizations like UN Women exist to protect women from such crimes, while Israeli experts and activists have been involved in these international efforts. Thus, our second shock: The inconceivable and unforgiveable silence of these organizations when faced with the rape and murder of Israeli women....

...As a woman and a mother, my heart goes out to women and children in Gaza suffering the consequences of the war started by Hamas. I believe they deserve aid and support. But this does not mean the erasure of the atrocities committed by Palestinian terrorists on October 7. The silence of international human rights organizations, and the unwillingness to believe Israeli women in the face of overwhelming evidence has been devastating....
 
Notice the perpetual liars in Washington claim to have played a role in this....my grapevine is saying that the only thing they have to do with it is a month ago telling Israel not to do the deal.
 
PostmodernProphet said:
no, but I've just discovered you are......
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Not only do you hate most Americans, but you hate anyone who does not hate most Americans. It is sad to watch.

Most gay Americans are not hurting you, so just let them live their lives. You can be like me, not gay, without hating the gays.
 
Walt said:
Not only do you hate most Americans, but you hate anyone who does not hate most Americans. It is sad to watch.

Most gay Americans are not hurting you, so just let them live their lives. You can be like me, not gay, without hating the gays.
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most Hamas aren't hurting me either, and they are what we are discussing, not your sexual preferences.......you avoiding the topic is sad to watch....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
most Hamas aren't hurting me either, and they are what we are discussing, not your sexual preferences.......you avoiding the topic is sad to watch....
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A difference being that Hamas has hurt Americans and seeks to kill more. Remember the whole "Death to America" thing?

Who are gays hurting, besides your tender feewings?
 
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Doc Dutch said:
A difference being that Hamas has hurt Americans and seeks to kill more. Remember the whole "Death to America" thing?

Who are gays hurting, besides your tender feewings?
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gays don't hurt my feelings.......you apparently have me confused with someone trying to date a homosexual.....
 
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