Holy Crap. I think Micheal Moore just endorsed Trump

anatta said:
yes. the danger to the Republican establishment of a Trump presidency cannot be understated.
It would make the Tea Party look like..a tea party (day at the beach).

Conversely a Clinton presidency locks the weasels into power, and rewards corruption and graft.
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Will you rise up when Trumpf loses in a Clinton landslide?
 
Darth Hussein Omar said:
Moore is a dunce but the far left loves him, so this video is not insignificant. No way they would vote for Trump, but if Hillary becomes unpalatable to them, the will either not vote or go third party.
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It is insignificant....?? Don't you think the ppl that "love him" know him??

What you don't seem to get is~ the problem is him...

Just as you & many others have concluded...

HIM!!!!!
 
Milagro said:
Yes but he is saying some pretty profound things here, I don't see anybody else but Trump threatening to put tariffs on corporations like Ford if they relocate to somewhere cheaper.

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Why do you think that is??
 
anatta said:
yes. the danger
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to the Republican establishment of a Trump presidency cannot be understated.
It would make the Tea Party look like..a tea party (day at the beach).

Conversely a Clinton presidency locks the weasels into power, and rewards corruption and graft.
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I believe we mostly agree..:D
 
Milagro said:
I just said ffs, Clinton is totally in hock to Wall Street and the corporations. If you don't believe me read her extremely expensive speeches she gave to them

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For the life of me I don't know why a single Bernie supporter would cross over to Hillary because of that.
 
Milagro said:
Yes but he is saying some pretty profound things here, I don't see anybody else but Trump threatening to put tariffs on corporations like Ford if they relocate to somewhere cheaper.
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I'd like to see him try. It's not as easy as he thinks.

"There’s not a lot of detail to Trump’s suggestions, making them hard to fully evaluate, but trade experts from across the political spectrum warn that most of his threatened tariffs would violate decades of binding trade deals negotiated by previous administrations and agreed to by previous Congresses.

“That 20% tax would be an absolutely straightforward violation of probably every trade law the United States has with any other country,” Joshua Meltzer, a fellow in global economy and development at the Brookings Institution, told msnbc.

“All of our existing agreements lock us into lower tariffs,” Claude Barfield, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute who supports lowered trade barriers, told msnbc.
“Absolutely illegal,” Robert E. Scott, director of trade and manufacturing research at the Economic Policy Institute and a strong critic of past trade agreements like NAFTA, told msnbc when asked about Trump’s 20% import tax.

Current tariff rates, which vary from product to product, are far lower than Trump’s various proposals – the average U.S. tariff on imports from World Trade Organization members was 3.4% in 2013 and even lower when weighted to reflect which goods were imported. Assuming Trump succeeded in getting his plans past Congress, countries would be free to challenge the tariffs as a trade violation, and experts believed an international arbiter would almost certainly take their side. If Trump refused to back down, world leaders would then be free to raise their own tariffs in retaliation, setting the stage for a trade war that could strain foreign relations and depress American exports."

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-wants-tax-the-world-even-legal
 
christiefan915 said:
I'd like to see him try. It's not as easy as he thinks.

"There’s not a lot of detail to Trump’s suggestions, making them hard to fully evaluate, but trade experts from across the political spectrum warn that most of his threatened tariffs would violate decades of binding trade deals negotiated by previous administrations and agreed to by previous Congresses.

“That 20% tax would be an absolutely straightforward violation of probably every trade law the United States has with any other country,” Joshua Meltzer, a fellow in global economy and development at the Brookings Institution, told msnbc.

“All of our existing agreements lock us into lower tariffs,” Claude Barfield, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute who supports lowered trade barriers, told msnbc.
“Absolutely illegal,” Robert E. Scott, director of trade and manufacturing research at the Economic Policy Institute and a strong critic of past trade agreements like NAFTA, told msnbc when asked about Trump’s 20% import tax.

Current tariff rates, which vary from product to product, are far lower than Trump’s various proposals – the average U.S. tariff on imports from World Trade Organization members was 3.4% in 2013 and even lower when weighted to reflect which goods were imported. Assuming Trump succeeded in getting his plans past Congress, countries would be free to challenge the tariffs as a trade violation, and experts believed an international arbiter would almost certainly take their side. If Trump refused to back down, world leaders would then be free to raise their own tariffs in retaliation, setting the stage for a trade war that could strain foreign relations and depress American exports."

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-wants-tax-the-world-even-legal
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Wait, are you anti tariffs or anti tariffs because Trump is for them?
 
anatta said:
rise up where? and do what?
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Trump Supporters Call For Violent Coup If He Loses, Vow To Racially Profile Minority Voters

Donald Trump's increasingly inflammatory rhetoric is bringing out the worst in his die-hard supporters, some of whom are now calling for a violent coup if Hillary Clinton becomes president, and pledging to racially profile and intimidate minority voters on Election Day.

The Boston Globe reports that Trump supporters are starting to believe what the GOP presidential nominee has repeatedly told them — that the election will be "rigged" as part of a massive conspiracy to defeat him at the hands of "crooked Hillary." And the impact of Trump's incendiary statements could be felt far beyond Election Day, undermining Americans' faith in democracy and making it difficult to govern — or worse.

“If she’s in office, I hope we can start a coup. She should be in prison or shot. That’s how I feel about it,” Dan Bowman, a 50-year-old contractor, said of Clinton at recent rally in Cincinnati. “We’re going to have a revolution and take them out of office if that’s what it takes. There’s going to be a lot of bloodshed. But that’s what it’s going to take. . . . I would do whatever I can for my country.”

At a rally in North Carolina on Friday, Trump declared: “It’s one big fix. This whole election is being rigged.’’

At the same rally, a Trump supporter attacked a protester, shoving him and putting him in a headlock, as the crowd erupted in chants of "USA, USA!":

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?74221-Holy-Crap-I-think-Micheal-Moore-just-endorsed-Trump&p=1737521#post1737521
 
Leonthecat said:
Trump Supporters Call For Violent Coup If He Loses, Vow To Racially Profile Minority Voters

Donald Trump's increasingly inflammatory rhetoric is bringing out the worst in his die-hard supporters, some of whom are now calling for a violent coup if Hillary Clinton becomes president, and pledging to racially profile and intimidate minority voters on Election Day.

The Boston Globe reports that Trump supporters are starting to believe what the GOP presidential nominee has repeatedly told them — that the election will be "rigged" as part of a massive conspiracy to defeat him at the hands of "crooked Hillary." And the impact of Trump's incendiary statements could be felt far beyond Election Day, undermining Americans' faith in democracy and making it difficult to govern — or worse.

“If she’s in office, I hope we can start a coup. She should be in prison or shot. That’s how I feel about it,” Dan Bowman, a 50-year-old contractor, said of Clinton at recent rally in Cincinnati. “We’re going to have a revolution and take them out of office if that’s what it takes. There’s going to be a lot of bloodshed. But that’s what it’s going to take. . . . I would do whatever I can for my country.”

At a rally in North Carolina on Friday, Trump declared: “It’s one big fix. This whole election is being rigged.’’

At the same rally, a Trump supporter attacked a protester, shoving him and putting him in a headlock, as the crowd erupted in chants of "USA, USA!":

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showthread.php?74221-Holy-Crap-I-think-Micheal-Moore-just-endorsed-Trump&p=1737521#post1737521
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do you read what you post? Trump never called for riots. If you paid attention you'd have seen he was talking about the media becoming
a campaign arm of the ClintonMachine - but you obviously didn't. That's what he's been saying for weeks

at a rally in North Carolina on Friday, Trump declared: “It’s one big fix. This whole election is being rigged.’’
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Not that I blame you -because you are simply parroting what WaPo and NYTimes (et all) splash all over the 'front page'.
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anyways -to this post- Trump has never called for riots, any more then Trump supporters didn't go after anyone who didn't bird dog them
or shut down rallies like Chiacgo where the thugs were Democratic operatives.

You have 1 quote here from some 50 year old guy ranting about "a lot of bloodshed"- it's an unsupported anecdotal
 
christiefan915 said:
I'd like to see him try. It's not as easy as he thinks.

"There’s not a lot of detail to Trump’s suggestions, making them hard to fully evaluate, but trade experts from across the political spectrum warn that most of his threatened tariffs would violate decades of binding trade deals negotiated by previous administrations and agreed to by previous Congresses.

“That 20% tax would be an absolutely straightforward violation of probably every trade law the United States has with any other country,” Joshua Meltzer, a fellow in global economy and development at the Brookings Institution, told msnbc.

“All of our existing agreements lock us into lower tariffs,” Claude Barfield, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute who supports lowered trade barriers, told msnbc.
“Absolutely illegal,” Robert E. Scott, director of trade and manufacturing research at the Economic Policy Institute and a strong critic of past trade agreements like NAFTA, told msnbc when asked about Trump’s 20% import tax.

Current tariff rates, which vary from product to product, are far lower than Trump’s various proposals – the average U.S. tariff on imports from World Trade Organization members was 3.4% in 2013 and even lower when weighted to reflect which goods were imported. Assuming Trump succeeded in getting his plans past Congress, countries would be free to challenge the tariffs as a trade violation, and experts believed an international arbiter would almost certainly take their side. If Trump refused to back down, world leaders would then be free to raise their own tariffs in retaliation, setting the stage for a trade war that could strain foreign relations and depress American exports."

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/donald-trump-wants-tax-the-world-even-legal
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he will just order it done, wave his big hands & it shall be done... Just like the generals & us peasants will follow his orders.......
 
If one good thing could come of Trump it's that people would recognize the negative economic effects of tariffs and closing off trade. Instead it's just anti-Trump and if a Democrat proposed it it probably would be supported.
 
cawacko said:
If one good thing could come of Trump it's that people would recognize the negative economic effects of tariffs and closing off trade. Instead it's just anti-Trump and if a Democrat proposed it it probably would be supported.
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What should be done about China & others dumping/cheating?? SHould it be a threat??
 
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