Hiroshima was nuked, 6 August 1945

Dutch Uncle said:
I do believe Cypress is a Democrat, but he's clearly more educated than you.

After reading a dozen of your posts it's clear that you are both a sock and a fucking moron; one of Trump's poorly educated cocksuckers too fucking stupid to get a good job. Sad. You must be a great disappointment to your parents.
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Seems you are as uneducated as him. No surprise there.
 
Cypress said:
Germany had the best physicists on the planet, including the legendary Werner Heisenberg, and a legitimate question is why Germany did not develop the bomb first.

Danish physicist Niels Bohr ended his friendship with Heisenberg over Heisenberg's association with the Nazi regime. There are three theories as to Heisenberg's actual relationship with the Nazi atomic program:

1) Heisenberg was a willing collaborator with Hitler and as a result completely alienated Bohr.
2) Heisenberg was an unwilling collaborator with Hitler, having been coerced into Nazi service by threat and intimidation.
3) Heisenberg was a heroic resistance figure who sabotaged Hitler's nuclear program from within.
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In 1935. By 1939 they had gone from first place in physics to near last and the US who had been nearly last was now first. This is what happens when a bunch of anti-science, racist, Leftists pushing all sorts of quack theories get in charge of your country...
 
T. A. Gardner said:
In 1935. By 1939 they had gone from first place in physics to near last and the US who had been nearly last was now first. This is what happens when a bunch of anti-science, racist, Leftists pushing all sorts of quack theories get in charge of your country...
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The Nazis were world history's most notorious serial murderers of leftists--> socialists, communists, and Germany's liberal social democratic party.

I believe the leaders of the Germany's liberal party, the Social Democrats, spent the war in prison or were murdered, and the party was outlawed.


Driving Jewish physicists out of the country didn't help German Science.

But to claim Germany was in last place scientifically does not pass the laugh test. This is the nation that invented guided V2 ballistic missile flight, jet powered aircraft, and rocket engines.
 
Theywillneverlearn! said:
Yes it is. You and Cypress should learn from that. Democrats of course. Never will.
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All you have is talk, youwillneverlearn. You're just another loudmouthed, pussified crybully who slings insults on the Internet because it's easy. God bless America!

What you can't do is put together cogent reasoning for your beliefs. You're just part of the mindless mob screaming your dissent about things you can't even describe:

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PS FYI I've never voted for a Democrat President and see no reason to change now. What I have done is stop voting for Republican Presidents when they became lying, draft-dodging, adulterous pedophile elitists and traitors like Donald J. Trump.
 
Cypress said:
The Nazis were world history's most notorious serial murderers of leftists--> socialists, communists, and Germany's liberal social democratic party.

I believe the leaders of the Germany's liberal party, the Social Democrats, spent the war in prison or were murdered, and the party was outlawed.


Driving Jewish physicists out of the country didn't help German Science.

But to claim Germany was in last place scientifically does not pass the laugh test. This is the nation that invented guided V2 ballistic missile flight, jet powered aircraft, and rocket engines.
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They simply pushed extant ballistic missile technology further than anyone else. The US and Russia saw no value in building something like the V2. The USAAF in project MX 774 Hiroc started in early 1945 was the US entry into large ballistic missiles. These were planned for use with nuclear weapons.
Interestingly, US engineers at Convair (Charles Bossart for example), at Aerojets, and Hughes (Raytheon today) rejected all of the German V2 engineering as crude and inefficient out-of-hand having a chance to examine it. Bossart rejected the conventional airframe with tanks fitted into it for one using the skin as the tank wall and pressurization to give rigidity. His design invention for the Hiroc is still used worldwide in ballistic missile design today. Aerojets rejected the use of graphite veins to steer the missile in favor of a swiveling nozzle, something the Germans tried and failed to get to work. Hughes rejected putting all of the guidance system on the missile, like the Germans had, in favor of using far better US radar and radio systems to guide it from the ground remotely. The Azusa guidance system was copied by the Soviet Union and widely used up through the 1980's.
So, the Germans had a bigger missile but it was really a poor design.

As for jets, the US and British both had them too. In fact the first squadron operational jet fighter in service was the US P-59. Yes, the 412th FG was a training group and never left the US but they had three squadrons of P-59 flying early in 1944. Their purpose was to learn how to maintain and use jets along with train pilots on them.

The US and Soviet Union, pre-war both had better liquid and solid fuel rocket engines than the Germans had. Once the war started, the Soviet program ended, focusing on just smaller solid fuel rockets that had a clear combat use. In the US, solid fuel rockets outdid those of the Germans but were given limited application. The US saw little value in liquid fuel engines.

In fact, with just a few exceptions, German technology in WW 2 was no better and often worse than Allied.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
They simply pushed extant ballistic missile technology further than anyone else. The US and Russia saw no value in building something like the V2. The USAAF in project MX 774 Hiroc started in early 1945 was the US entry into large ballistic missiles. These were planned for use with nuclear weapons.
Interestingly, US engineers at Convair (Charles Bossart for example), at Aerojets, and Hughes (Raytheon today) rejected all of the German V2 engineering as crude and inefficient out-of-hand having a chance to examine it. Bossart rejected the conventional airframe with tanks fitted into it for one using the skin as the tank wall and pressurization to give rigidity. His design invention for the Hiroc is still used worldwide in ballistic missile design today. Aerojets rejected the use of graphite veins to steer the missile in favor of a swiveling nozzle, something the Germans tried and failed to get to work. Hughes rejected putting all of the guidance system on the missile, like the Germans had, in favor of using far better US radar and radio systems to guide it from the ground remotely. The Azusa guidance system was copied by the Soviet Union and widely used up through the 1980's.
So, the Germans had a bigger missile but it was really a poor design.

As for jets, the US and British both had them too. In fact the first squadron operational jet fighter in service was the US P-59. Yes, the 412th FG was a training group and never left the US but they had three squadrons of P-59 flying early in 1944. Their purpose was to learn how to maintain and use jets along with train pilots on them.

The US and Soviet Union, pre-war both had better liquid and solid fuel rocket engines than the Germans had. Once the war started, the Soviet program ended, focusing on just smaller solid fuel rockets that had a clear combat use. In the US, solid fuel rockets outdid those of the Germans but were given limited application. The US saw little value in liquid fuel engines.

In fact, with just a few exceptions, German technology in WW 2 was no better and often worse than Allied.
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Your claim that a nation that was near last place in science, but somehow invented ballistic missile guidance systems, jet aircraft, and rocket engines fails every laugh test out there
 
Cypress said:
I think nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki was immoral and a crime against nature. But I also think it played a role in Japan accepting it had been utterly defeated and forcing them to submit to an unconditional surrender and a military occupation.
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After Pearl Harbor there wasn't much of a chance we would cut Japan slack!
War not only is Hell,but immoral.
 
goat said:
Japan was trying to surrender but the US had a new toy they wanted to show off to the Soviets. The US is the most immoral empire in world history. Japanese fascists were building schools and factories all over Asia so the US decided they had to conform to western rule. Japan was nuked because they are nonwhite. It's as simple as the color of their skin. German nazis were recruited to work for the Anglosphere.
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Revised history
 
Cypress said:
Your claim that a nation that was near last place in science, but somehow invented ballistic missile guidance systems, jet aircraft, and rocket engines fails every laugh test out there
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You obviously can't read. I said "physics." Physics =/= "science."
 
Dutch Uncle said:
All you have is talk, youwillneverlearn. You're just another loudmouthed, pussified crybully who slings insults on the Internet because it's easy. God bless America!

What you can't do is put together cogent reasoning for your beliefs. You're just part of the mindless mob screaming your dissent about things you can't even describe:

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PS FYI I've never voted for a Democrat President and see no reason to change now. What I have done is stop voting for Republican Presidents when they became lying, draft-dodging, adulterous pedophile elitists and traitors like Donald J. Trump.
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I feel bad for you Dutch. Much bravado with nothing to back it up. Vote democrat of course.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You're a fucking moron, dumbass. If you saw bravado in my post then I now know you're such a pussified individual.....as if being a sock wasn't enough. LOL

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Nothing else like your post proves the non uselessness and lack of patriotism for this country like your post. No clearer than a public assistance needing Democrat. God help you junior.
 
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