Hillary the baggage lady

Amadeus said:
What about the initial invasion and the 4500 dead troops, million dead Iraqis, and 500,000 orphans produced by it? You seem to trying to bullshit your way into a valid point, while missing the original discussion about the faux moral outrage of Republicans.
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so you decide to discuss faux moral outrage by exhibiting your own?.....
 
PostmodernProphet said:
so Sadaam's army was living in Syria and armed by Obama?......interesting........
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http://time.com/3900753/isis-iraq-syria-army-united-states-military/

The decision to dissolve the Iraqi army robbed Baghdad’s post-invasion military of some of its best commanders and troops. Combined with sectarian strains that persist 12 years later, it also drove many of the suddenly out-of-work Sunni warriors into alliances with a Sunni insurgency that would eventually mutate into ISIS. Many former Iraqi military officers and troops, trained under Saddam, have spent the last 12 years in Anbar Province battling both U.S. troops and Baghdad’s Shi'ite-dominated security forces, Pentagon officials say.

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The U.S.-ordered dissolution of the Iraqi army was a major error. But it was compounded by former Shi'ite Prime Minister Nouri al-Malaki’s wholesale firing of Sunni commanders in favor of more compliant, if less competent, Shi'ites during his 2006-2014 tenure. That turned what was supposed to have been a national army into little more than a sectarian militia that took orders from the Prime Minister’s inner circle. “Malaki went into that army and pulled out all of its distinguished leaders, whose guys were devoted to them, and put in these cronies and hacks,” Keane said. “And those guys pocketed the money that was supposed to be used for training.”

So how did the Iraqi army come to dissolve? The Bush Administration tapped Paul Bremer to head the so-called Coalition Provisional Authority on May 11, 2003. Twelve days later, he issued an order wiping away the Iraqi military, with a pledge to build a new one from scratch, untainted by any ties to Saddam's regime. The army’s end quickly led to civil unrest, a growing insurgency and a U.S. occupation that would last eight years and cost the lives of 4,491 American troops.
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GazzaQueen said:
Ba'athists are not muslims, wolfy. They are Secularists.
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1) Muslim is an ethno-religious identity. Just as there are secular Jews, there are secular Muslims.

2) The Baath party is a political party, not an ethno-religious identity.

3) The vast majority of Baathist were Sunni Muslims.

4) The Baathist party merged with ISIS post de-Baathification.

I dare you to dispute any of these facts.
 
I'm guessing Hillary is feeling quite a bit of vindication over the idiocy being displayed by Trump & co.

Seeing the nation and the world rolling their eyes and laughing at him, has probably taken a good bit of the sting out of the election results, too.
 
Amadeus said:
Clinton was lobbied by the PNAC (which later became the Bush Admin) to support regime change. And even so, it was cooked intel from Cheney and Rumsfeld that convinced Dems to support giving Bush the authorization for war. This is part of the historical record.
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Wrong once again; but that is why you're a low information liberal.

The previous Democratic administration and many high ranking Dems made the same claims as Bush.

But no matter how many times this FACT is shared with brain dead liberals, they will keep repeating the lies they've been programmed to repeat.
 
Nomad said:
I'm guessing Hillary is feeling quite a bit of vindication over the idiocy being displayed by Trump & co.

Seeing the nation and the world rolling their eyes and laughing at him, has probably taken a good bit of the sting out of the election results, too.
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Wrong; what you're sensing is the continuing decline into irrelevancy by the Democratic Party and its leaderless, rudderless fall into the abyss of political hackery.
 
Stretch said:
She just won't go awaaaaaaaaaaaaaay! Still hacking, whining, moaning and kvetching. We keep talking about her because she just won't let it go. Same old spiel, lies and dilutions. Still playing the victim card. I'm so embarrassed for her every time she opens her yap...it all makes her look so weak. There's nothing more nauseating than an adult playing the victim card. People do not respect self-pity. She needs to buy a boatload of boxes of Franzia Chardonnay and go back to the woods.
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I don't want her to go away. I want her out there in her deranged fashion whining and complaining about how EVERYONE cheated her out of the election. It only helps Trump
 
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O'Biden may try again. There truly is a God and he is the DNC gift that keeps on giving.

The hypocrite opined about the divisive climate created by......DEMOCRATS.

The same hypocrite who claimed Republicans would put blacks back in chains.
 
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