High school football coach scores big win at Supreme Court over post-game prayer

Earl said:
Yes, probably so.

His lawyer said he was not seeking financial compensation in his case that was just decided.

He is a man of honor who was saying prayers, I believe, to protect the players of both teams from injury.
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You realize it doesn't work, correct?
 
Earl said:
I don't believe that the Founding Fathers and the authors of the Constitution meant for illegals (non-citizens) who break our laws to enter our country, to have Constitutional protections.

They are supposed to be deported, not rewarded for their illegal behavior.
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There are provisions made for them, enough to be treated like human beings and have equal protection under the law, (equally crappy protection?) and access to basic services, but they can't

vote.
 
dukkha said:
he Supreme Court handed a big win to a former Washington high school football coach who lost his job over reciting a prayer on the 50-yard line after games.

At issue was whether a public school employee praying alone but in view of students was engaging in unprotected "government speech," and if it is not government speech, does it still pose a problem under the First Amendment's Establishment Clause.

The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the answer to both questions is no.

"Here, a government entity sought to punish an individual for engaging in a brief, quiet, personal religious observance doubly protected by the Free Exercise and Free Speech Clauses of the First Amendment. And the only meaningful justification the government offered for its reprisal rested on a mistaken view that it had a duty to ferret out and suppress," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the Court's opinion. "Religious observances even as it allows comparable secular speech. The Constitution neither mandates nor tolerates that kind of discrimination."
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/hi...scores-big-win-supreme-court-post-game-prayer
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To me the devil is in the details. If the coach quietly went in the field and prayed, where he was not given special unique access, without encouraging any students to join him, I absolutely agree it is his right.

The closer the coach gets to encouraging students to join him or using an area where he has a unique authority to be in, due to his position as a teacher… The less of a right he has to do that.

I do not know the facts of this specific case.
 
Earl said:
As I said, heathen, you would not understand.

Just try to absorb the fact that you and the rest of the far left loons lost.

Get over it. Stop sulking.
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No, really. Is God such an egomaniac that she allows people to get injured if they don't pray to her?
 
Flash said:
There was no government mandate requiring or prohibiting a religious activity. The establishment clause requires government action. The coach (an agent of the government) also did not mandate participation. So, there was no violation of the establishment clause but an exercise of freedom of religion/speech.
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Wouldn't it be interesting if Santeria were practiced in the middle of the field after each game?
 
Althea said:
Wouldn't it be interesting if Santeria were practiced in the middle of the field after each game?
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Including killing a chicken by candlelight? It would be awesome to sacrifice a goat on the 50 yard line.
 
Earl said:
Free exercise is the liberty of persons to reach, hold, practice and change beliefs freely according to the dictates of conscience. The Free Exercise Clause prohibits government interference with religious belief and, within limits, religious practice.

Looks like the Free Exercise Clause prevailed.
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Hmmm...you just made an excellent case for a religion that sacrifices unborn fetuses before God.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Agreed about Satan worshippers.

The problem is tax-payer dollars favoring religion.
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Taxes are the sticking point here. Millions of people who don't use public schools are still forced to pay school taxes. It's a cost sharing issue that is necessary in society.

As such, ultra religious groups who are forced (IF they pay taxes) to pay for schools are now getting govt. funding for their own schools.
 
Jarod said:
To me the devil is in the details. If the coach quietly went in the field and prayed, where he was not given special unique access, without encouraging any students to join him, I absolutely agree it is his right.

The closer the coach gets to encouraging students to join him or using an area where he has a unique authority to be in, due to his position as a teacher… The less of a right he has to do that.

I do not know the facts of this specific case.
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Further, if the coach gives preferrential treatment to those who pray, vs those who don't, that is an issue.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Including killing a chicken by candlelight? It would be awesome to sacrifice a goat on the 50 yard line.
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I'll bet people would hang out for that.

What about a team that uses voodoo dolls before the game to ensure that the other team gets injured?
 
Althea said:
Explain how a screen pass is related to a last ditch effort to complete a long pass?
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They are both football plays, you fucking pinheaded numbskull! A-Durrr!

Are you sure you didn't go to a religious school?

You know, one with a name like "Academy of the Holy Fuck Stupid"?
 
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