Hey Rob... How does it look beneath the Democrat Bus?

Beefy and Grind Lovefest

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Beefy and Grind Lovefest
 
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Upon reading the latest quote in your sig I am disguisted (sorry to sidetrack) Good thing darla is a girl 0_0.

Btw rob is in conservative mode right now I don't think you will have a hard time reaching him.
 
Upon reading the latest quote in your sig I am disguisted (sorry to sidetrack) Good thing darla is a girl 0_0.

Btw rob is in conservative mode right now I don't think you will have a hard time reaching him.
Why? It's a simple statement of an obvious truth. Okay, the double negative gets a bit confusing in there but it parses out correctly.
 
Upon reading the latest quote in your sig I am disguisted (sorry to sidetrack) Good thing darla is a girl 0_0.

This mindset is what launches neo imperialist justifications for "new world order" type shit.
 
I don't think it's an obvious truth. We are superior to many nations and therefore deserve more benefits.
 
I'm just curious, since you, as a gay man, have spent more time under the Democrat Bus than most anyone. You will recall, the first thing Democrats blamed the 2004 presidential loss on, was Karl Rove's 'brilliance' in having Gay Marriage issues on the ballots. If only the Democrats hadn't been such ardent supporters of the unpopular initiatives, perhaps things would have been different... at least, that was the implication.

Then there is the Mark Foley deal, where Republican leadership is being harshly criticized by Democrats, for not recognizing Foley's homosexual tendencies and realizing he was a perverted pedophile. Again, the implication is, because Foley had a fondness for the physical attributes of young men, it should have been obvious he was a pervert, or at least prompted further investigation into his personal life.

Finally, there is the recent revelation of "The List" that Democrat operatives have prepared, to "out" homosexual republicans, just before the election. It seems the "intolerant" republicans have a few homosexuals in their midst, and this is seen as unacceptable by the "more tolerant" Democrats.

I realize that it's election season, and Democrats are desperate to regain some level of power in Washington, but I am really surprised at how well the gay/lesbian community is taking being thrown under the bus for political gain.

First of all, let me say that I call BS on this "list". Everything I have read, and I've read a lot, put Republican fingerprints all over this Dixie, and it may come as a surprise to you, but apparently, some of them were gay themselves and deeply disgusted by Foley's behavior.

However, you are right about the Democratic party. They did want to throw the gays overboard. I picked up on that right away, probably because at the very same time, they were making noises about abortion, and I figured, oh sure, throw the women over board you bastards.

But I said to many people, I will not vote for anyone who even implies such a thing. Yes, dems might win more elections without the gay marriage issue attached to them. Too bad. Gays have every right to marry, and supporting them is the right thing to do. And people are, and will continue to come around to that. And if we have to wait a little bit longer for them to do so, then so be it. At one time, it was politically "smart" to expouse the view that we "can't move too fast on civil rights, the country's not ready for it" That cowardice was wrong then, and it's wrong now.

So much of the base, spits on those Democratics. And they are out there every day working to pressure these cowards to the right place.
 
and forgetting my qusi-nationalist sentiments for a moment, and forgetting all my flare, does this mean since we have healthcare all other nations have a right to said healthcare to? my ass.

Does this mean since we are well educated they have a RIGHT to be well educated to?

Again, no way.
 
I don't think it's an obvious truth. We are superior to many nations and therefore deserve more benefits.

Grind, that is just wrong. Whoever has the money and the know-how to develop these, is eventually going to do so. And we are not better than anyone, as a whole people. Individuals are individuals, and that's different. This mindset that we are God's chosen people and that America is "the best" is just silly. This isn't the National League.
 
and forgetting my qusi-nationalist sentiments for a moment, and forgetting all my flare, does this mean since we have healthcare all other nations have a right to said healthcare to? my ass.

Does this mean since we are well educated they have a RIGHT to be well educated to?

Again, no way.

No, no, no. The proper questions to ask are, do we have a RIGHT to tell another country they can't have health care? Do we have a RIGHT to tell another country they can't have education? If they can pay for it, that's their business. Who the hell are we to be telling them what to do?

And by the way, we don't have health care, and quite a few countries are way ahead of us on that one.
 
My mindset? Can you explain what you mean Beefy? I'm not sure.


Grind's mindset. That there is an inherent right, and obligation to spread American superiority all over the world. That America is the only counry with the right to power. It is a double edged sword. We get more powerful in the short run, and go the way of the Romans in the long run. Some folk will never ever be able to learn from history, or even apply it to changing times.

The insinuation that we have more rights as a nation than others is arrogant and fallacious at best.

I am now prepared to have my words chopped up, roconstructed and used against me, but so what. Its a message board.
 
mbl you are acting a bit retarded today, I never claimed we had an inherent right or obligation to spread american superiority over the world, I am a radical isolationist and have said so on numerous occassions. I like confining our superiority to our nations borders.
 
President Grind on Foreign Policy:

1. Withdraw all troops from around the globe and give back all bases to their respective countries.

2. Leave the United Nations

3. Cut off all foreign aid to everywhere.

4. Pay no attention to the world community.

5. If ever attacked, nuke and destroy the entire country which provoked us within the hour and make sure it never exists again.
 
mbl you are acting a bit retarded today, I never claimed we had an inherent right or obligation to spread american superiority over the world, I am a radical isolationist and have said so on numerous occassions. I like confining our superiority to our nations borders.

Why then disgust with Darla's words in Dixie's signature? And I act retarded everyday.
 
Grind's mindset. That there is an inherent right, and obligation to spread American superiority all over the world. That America is the only counry with the right to power. It is a double edged sword. We get more powerful in the short run, and go the way of the Romans in the long run. Some folk will never ever be able to learn from history, or even apply it to changing times.

The insinuation that we have more rights as a nation than others is arrogant and fallacious at best.

I am now prepared to have my words chopped up, roconstructed and used against me, but so what. Its a message board.

Ok, that's what I had hoped you meant.

Well Beefy, you have not arrived here as far as I'm concerned, until you make it onto Dixie's signature. Which I have done with a similar sentiment, so how jealous are you now? :)
 
I don't think it's an obvious truth. We are superior to many nations and therefore deserve more benefits.
And next you annex the Sudetenland.

"Superior" according to what standard? And who's handing out these "benefits" that we can be said to deserve any at all?
 
Why then disgust with Darla's words in Dixie's signature? And I act retarded everyday.

Miscommunication maybe? I thought she meant that if we have healthcare they have a right to healthcare to (i.e. we should provide it to them)

Many who support the U.N. talk about a global tax etc . . that stuff pisses me off.

Ornot... my standards for better is as follows:

(No order)

1. Health
2. Education/Intelligence
3. Wealth
4. Technology
5. Principles

Yes subjective, but it's what matters to me and frankly we are very much better in these regards.
 
Ok, that's what I had hoped you meant.

Well Beefy, you have not arrived here as far as I'm concerned, until you make it onto Dixie's signature. Which I have done with a similar sentiment, so how jealous are you now? :)

I think I was in Dixuck's signature at one point, but I can't remember.
 
Miscommunication maybe? I thought she meant that if we have healthcare they have a right to healthcare to (i.e. we should provide it to them)

Many who support the U.N. talk about a global tax etc . . that stuff pisses me off.

Ornot... my standards for better is as follows:

(No order)

1. Health
2. Education/Intelligence
3. Wealth
4. Technology
5. Principles

Yes subjective, but it's what matters to me and frankly we are very much better in these regards.

Obviously, this is proof that my words were taken out of context by Dixie. That little shit.

He did say something about my position on nuclear weapons I think.
 
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