Helen Mirren Should Fucking Hang!

Damocles said:
When I was in HS we had an Aussie in the exchange program, he was all on about how much "tougher" you had to be to play Rugby, he went out and contemptuously was going to "show" us by playing football without pads. The first time he was hit, he was on the sideline for an hour trying to gain back his brain capacity. He stopped.
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Granted, he was getting hit by people wearing pads, meaning they had more weight to him with...
 
Damocles said:
Dude, bashing BP is bashing a company, not a nation. Why is it that you Brits are so thin skinned that a company that no longer even has "British" in its name is representative of your whole nation emotionally?
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I think it’s a cultural thing. Europeans are used to going on bended knee to monarchs, corporations, monied interests, and State churches. I don’t think they have our liberal/radical legal or cultural tradition of suing corporations, or putting their boots on the neck of monied interests. I blame it on the British East India company. I don’t even think tort law is remotely the same in Europe to the extent we have it. Some French dude I knew in grad school expressed shock and dismay that Americans could sue and petition the courts for corporate malfeasance. Actually, for the first hundred years of this republic, corporations were despised and laws forced them to grovel and beg for state charters; they were bound and reigned in by extremely tight public controls on them. And they were required to operate in the public interest, to the extent feasible.

Unfortunately, our conservative American Tories, having much in common with their European counterparts, decided that corporations had the rights of persons, and the shackles and chains that our radical liberal founders placed on them, have been eroded by Tory American conservative collusion and buffoonery. Aren’t Cons always blabbing about reigning in law suits, putting liability caps in place to protect corporations, and babbling that trial lawyers are the worst thing since Nazi brown shirts? Very, very old world, Tory-like, and European indeed! Oh well, good thing I owe citgo stock instead of BP. Viva El Vato Loco, Chavez!
 
Cypress said:
I think it’s a cultural thing. Europeans are used to going on bended knee to monarchs, corporations, monied interests, and State churches. I don’t think they have our liberal/radical legal or cultural tradition of suing corporations, or putting their boots on the neck of monied interests. I blame it on the British East India company. I don’t even think tort law is remotely the same in Europe to the extent we have it. Some French dude I knew in grad school expressed shock and dismay that Americans could sue and petition the courts for corporate malfeasance. Actually, for the first hundred years of this republic, corporations were despised and laws forced them to grovel and beg for state charters; they were bound and reigned in by extremely tight public controls on them. And they were required to operate in the public interest, to the extent feasible.

Unfortunately, our conservative American Tories, having much in common with their European counterparts, decided that corporations had the rights of persons, and the shackles and chains that our radical liberal founders placed on them, have been eroded by Tory American conservative collusion and buffoonery. Aren’t Cons always blabbing about reigning in law suits, putting liability caps in place to protect corporations, and babbling that trial lawyers are the worst thing since Nazi brown shirts? Very, very old world, Tory-like, and European indeed! Oh well, good thing I owe citgo stock instead of BP. Viva El Vato Loco, Chavez!
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I own Valero. It's an American based smaller oil company. They've done very well for me, and without the taint of government takeovers.
 
Caboose said:
France seems to hold the record on kicking your ass.
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Bollocks. You need to learn history.

The last time France defeated us was 1066. And they were vikings who had simply lived in France for a hundred years.

The last time we fought, 1815, we slaughtered that little upstart Bonaparte and introduced Pax Brittanica.
 
AnyOldIron said:
Bollocks. You need to learn history.

The last time France defeated us was 1066. And they were vikings who had simply lived in France for a hundred years.

The last time we fought, 1815, we slaughtered that little upstart Bonaparte and introduced Pax Brittanica.
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You must be proud. We think of the French as pastry chefs not fighters.
 
we saved your pussy asses in WWII

No you didn't. If we hadn't defeated the Germans in the Battle of Britain, the US would have faced enemies invading on both coasts. You are welcome.

and have felt sorry for your tiny 3 rd rate country ever since

Yeah, third rate country that brought in the modern world. Again, you are welcome.
 
Damocles said:
Oh, but we have. Quit crying it's a fricking international corporation that changed its name to remove the "British".
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Tell that to all the pricks bashing Britain because of it. That's the wonder of the internet, we hear what is said...
 
AnyOldIron said:
we saved your pussy asses in WWII

No you didn't. If we hadn't defeated the Germans in the Battle of Britain, the US would have faced enemies invading on both coasts. You are welcome.

and have felt sorry for your tiny 3 rd rate country ever since

Yeah, third rate country that brought in the modern world. Again, you are welcome.
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Brought it in and dropped it off, took a step back, and watched while the Americans made it shiny and new.
 
AnyOldIron said:
we saved your pussy asses in WWII

No you didn't. If we hadn't defeated the Germans in the Battle of Britain, the US would have faced enemies invading on both coasts. You are welcome.

and have felt sorry for your tiny 3 rd rate country ever since

Yeah, third rate country that brought in the modern world. Again, you are welcome.
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Technically, you could say the Turks brought in the Modern World, by destablizing Western commerce, and forcing change.
 
AnyOldIron said:
No you didn't. If we hadn't defeated the Germans in the Battle of Britain, the US would have faced enemies invading on both coasts. You are welcome.
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Not really. There was no way the Germans could build a fleet large enough to invade the east coast, let alone produce the man power for such an invasion.
 
We think of the French as pastry chefs not fighters.

So do we. But in the early C19th they were far from pastry chefs, they had conquered every hard nation on Earth at the time.

It was their defeat at our hands in 1815 that created the pussy nation we now see...
 
Cypress said:
I think it’s a cultural thing. Europeans are used to going on bended knee to monarchs, corporations, monied interests, and State churches. I don’t think they have our liberal/radical legal or cultural tradition of suing corporations, or putting their boots on the neck of monied interests. I blame it on the British East India company. I don’t even think tort law is remotely the same in Europe to the extent we have it. Some French dude I knew in grad school expressed shock and dismay that Americans could sue and petition the courts for corporate malfeasance. Actually, for the first hundred years of this republic, corporations were despised and laws forced them to grovel and beg for state charters; they were bound and reigned in by extremely tight public controls on them. And they were required to operate in the public interest, to the extent feasible.

Unfortunately, our conservative American Tories, having much in common with their European counterparts, decided that corporations had the rights of persons, and the shackles and chains that our radical liberal founders placed on them, have been eroded by Tory American conservative collusion and buffoonery. Aren’t Cons always blabbing about reigning in law suits, putting liability caps in place to protect corporations, and babbling that trial lawyers are the worst thing since Nazi brown shirts? Very, very old world, Tory-like, and European indeed! Oh well, good thing I owe citgo stock instead of BP. Viva El Vato Loco, Chavez!
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You really are clueless, if you just used a search engine for five minutes you'd see that you are talking exquisite bollocks.
 
Technically, you could say the Turks brought in the Modern World, by destablizing Western commerce, and forcing change.

Nothing to do with the industrial revolution then, or the British Empire spreading it across the globe. Turks? We shit them in WWI
 
Caboose said:
Not really. There was no way the Germans could build a fleet large enough to invade the east coast, let alone produce the man power for such an invasion.
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Plus they still would have bogged down in Russia, there's just no way around that.
 
Originally Posted by Cypress
I think it’s a cultural thing. Europeans are used to going on bended knee to monarchs, corporations, monied interests, and State churches. I don’t think they have our liberal/radical legal or cultural tradition of suing corporations, or putting their boots on the neck of monied interests.


We executed our king and introduced democracy before America was a twinkle in our eye.
 
Not really. There was no way the Germans could build a fleet large enough to invade the east coast, let alone produce the man power for such an invasion.

They would have captured the Royal Navy home fleets. The RN was huge at the time.

I would say America would have sued for peace with Germany to fight Japan. Which would have killed off the Jewish populations of the old world.
 
Brought it in and dropped it off, took a step back, and watched while the Americans made it shiny and new

We employ cleaners to polish things. America has largely ridden on the back of our achievements.

Even your space program, America's one true original achievement was created on the back of Nazi rocket technology.
 
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