Health isnurance for profit is AMORAL!

Legion said:
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What a thoughtful response. My wife is not unique. There are many, many people in America who cannot get healthcare. The majority of personal bankruptcies are due to health care costs , many with insurance. Our system sucks, it serves the corporations .
 
Nerdberg said:
My wife is not unique. There are many, many people in America who cannot get healthcare. The majority of personal bankruptcies are due to health care costs , many with insurance.
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So you say. Because I am compassionate, I will share this:

An ORNL isotope is saving the lives of cancer patients in medical trials, and is on its way to helping more Americans as the president prepares to sign new legislation that would allow more patients to try experimental medical treatments.

Actinium-225, an isotope of the element actinium, which is usually found in uranium ores, is proving effective in curing - not just treating - myeloid leukemia.

Myeloid leukemia is a rare and rapidly progressing blood and bone marrow cancer that interferes with the body's production of platelets and normal white and red blood cells.

The cancer is treatable in young patients, but often fatal for people over 60 years of age. That's particularly problematic because the American Cancer Society says 67 is the average age of diagnosis.

in medical trials, Actinium-225 successfully treated the disease in elderly patients. ORNL nuclear medical scientist Saed Mirzadeh said some patients went into remission after only one treatment.

The isotope, when combined with tumor-seeking antibodies, is able to target and kill cancer cells without affecting healthy cells that surround them.

"It works very well actually; everyone is surprised how well this works compared with the other isotopes," Mirzadeh said.

"With leukemia, if even one percent of the leukemic cells are not killed, then there's a possibility that they come back, but for some people, the cells are all being killed in apparently just one treatment. Some had to go and get maybe the second or third treatment."

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/news/2018/05/29/cancer-cure-used-treat-myeloid-leukemia-found-oak-ridge-national-lab/636292002/

I don't know if it will help your wife.
 
Let's compare what Brad said before with the tale he tells today, shall we?

Jarod said:
The ACA has helped me in three ways.

1) I was able to get insurance, previously I was excluded for a history of high Cholesterol.
2) My employees insurance, which I pay 100% of, went down about $300 a month.
3) My family's insurance went down $90 a month, and now I am covered.

Oh, and a fourth way.... Many more of my fellow Americans are now insured and that makes my nation more healthy both physically and financially. It takes the stress off the healthcare system and will lower medical care costs drastically in the long run.
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Jarod said:
1) That is true, I went without health insurance before the ACA passed. (Then I had a provisional program called the PCIP, and now I have regular health insurance)
2) I combined us all into one policy.
3) I got no subsidies.

It makes sense to me that in order to sustain your personal world view, you must assume lots of people are lying when they are telling the truth.
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It's odd that no mention was made of any alleged PEC his spouse supposedly had. :|
 
I Love America said:
Why is it "amoral"?

How does a health insurance company survive without profit?

Oh that's right, you want others to pay for your healthcare. I forgot
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Non profit organizations do well all the time. Government organizations do also. Quasi-Governmemt organizations like power companies do also.
 
tinfoil said:
Because you take advantage of people who are desperate and distressed. You are a vulture
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No I help People who are desperate and distressed, Because car insurance companies won’t do the right thing.

I always say, if car insurance companies were fair, I’d have to find a new job.
 
I Love America said:
GayRod,

You decided to bring your wife's medical condition to a message board so you can't complain about the answers you get.

Let me break this down for your.

The insurance company is only a middle man. They are abiding by the insurance that YOU chose to pay for. Insurance companies will cover anything. Literally anything. However, your premium will be impacted by that.

If I am not mistaken, you once bragged about being on Obamacare. So maybe it is Obama you have a problem with?

Like many have said. You have stated you make $400,000 a year. Surely if your wife's "surgery" is important enough to you, you will pay for it yourself. I shouldn't cost more than $20 or $30,000 . Chump change for a person of your means
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The insurance company is obligated to pay, yet they are throwing unreasonable obstacles in the way, to try and wait her out, hoping that we will just self-pay, to get it done sooner. The cancer is currently growing, and one day soon will metastasize. They are taking advantage of that situation to get out of living up to their contractural obligation. That is immoral.
 
Jarod said:
You are ignorant, COBRA has a limit.
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And if you didn't take the time, before it ran out, to find healthcare for your family, then not only are you ignorant; but selfish, arrogant, self-centered, and just an all around terrible husband / person.
 
Brad said:
The insurance company is obligated to pay, yet they are throwing unreasonable obstacles in the way, to try and wait her out, hoping that we will just self-pay, to get it done sooner. The cancer is currently growing, and one day soon will metastasize. They are taking advantage of that situation to get out of living up to their contractural obligation. That is immoral.
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So you say.

Why didn't you mention your wife's supposed PEC back in 2014 when you sang the praises of the insurance you boasted of having?

Brad said:
The ACA has helped me in three ways.

1) I was able to get insurance, previously I was excluded for a history of high Cholesterol.
2) My employees insurance, which I pay 100% of, went down about $300 a month.
3) My family's insurance went down $90 a month, and now I am covered.

Oh, and a fourth way.... Many more of my fellow Americans are now insured and that makes my nation more healthy both physically and financially. It takes the stress off the healthcare system and will lower medical care costs drastically in the long run.
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Brad said:
1) That is true, I went without health insurance before the ACA passed. (Then I had a provisional program called the PCIP, and now I have regular health insurance)
2) I combined us all into one policy.
3) I got no subsidies.
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USFREEDOM911 said:
And if you didn't take the time, before it ran out, to find healthcare for your family, then not only are you ignorant; but selfish, arrogant, self-centered, and just an all around terrible husband / person.
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His stories don't jibe, as far as I can see.
 
Jarod said:
The insurance company is obligated to pay, yet they are throwing unreasonable obstacles in the way, to try and wait her out, hoping that we will just self-pay, to get it done sooner. The cancer is currently growing, and one day soon will metastasize. They are taking advantage of that situation to get out of living up to their contractural obligation. That is immoral.
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Please describe these "unreasonable" obstacles that they are "throwing" in your way.

It may have already metastasized? Here is a thought GayRod. Why not take her to Planned Parenthood? I hear that they perform all sorts of women's health procedures every day.

GayRod do you have a specific clause in your Obamacare coverage that covers mastectomies? If so, then I would suggest you hire a lawyer and take Obama to court.
 
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