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The reason people don't have health insurance is not because they don't want it, but because they can't afford it, and if you make it affordable, then they will come.

Last year the average price nationwide for health insurance purchased through an employer was $12,680 for a family and $4,700 for an individual.

There are enough young, uninsured people who are cheap to cover, but are opting out. To make sure that those folks are part of the overall pool is the best way to make sure that all of our premiums go down.

Just like drivers must maintain auto insurance, the system of the future will put responsibility for health care coverage on every adult.

Without a mandated requirement, you're never going to get universal coverage for our nation's 47 million uninsured people.

Employers would contribute to the total cost.

Waivers or discounts would be provided for low-income residents.

Urge your Senators and Representatives to support health care reform!
 
Topspin said:
many of the 47 mm don't want to buy it.
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Perhaps if it were cheaper...

Starting out, I used to be one of those singles who only had insurance when an employer provided it, because it was too big a % of my income to pay for.

Fortunately, I never had any catastrophic health problems, just the run of the mill kind that were affordable.
 
there is no formula that makes it cheaper for 20% of the 19-29 yr olds who don't fucking want it. So spread the cost over healthy people.

Hillarycare goes down in flames again
 
DNC said:
The reason people don't have health insurance is not because they don't want it, but because they can't afford it, and if you make it affordable, then they will come.

Last year the average price nationwide for health insurance purchased through an employer was $12,680 for a family and $4,700 for an individual.

There are enough young, uninsured people who are cheap to cover, but are opting out. To make sure that those folks are part of the overall pool is the best way to make sure that all of our premiums go down.

Just like drivers must maintain auto insurance, the system of the future will put responsibility for health care coverage on every adult.

Without a mandated requirement, you're never going to get universal coverage for our nation's 47 million uninsured people.

Employers would contribute to the total cost.

Waivers or discounts would be provided for low-income residents.

Urge your Senators and Representatives to support health care reform!
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Please comments on the results in MA. Here is a cut and paste from my response on another post on the subject:

We only have a 2.5% uninsured rate in MA. Its been 3 years since they enacted the new health care plan where you lose your tax deductions if you don't buy insurance and for low income there is a MA plan available to fit your needs. Very similar to what Obama is wanting to do on a federal level.

So how is it going? Well #1 the cost to the state has gone up 40% since they started this.. blowing away the projections. surprise surprise. #2 hospitals are starting to suffer because guess what; the state doesn't pay the bill either. Used to be that patients came in and didn't pay the bill and now more patients come in and the states not paying the bill. MA general is projecting massive deficits this year and may have to cut drs, nurses, close entire wings.. Not good. #3 The rate of people showing up at emergency rooms is the exact same as it was before.. unlike what they projected would happen which is go to normal checkups and well being appointments. #4 wait time has gone way up. worst in country now.


Sad to say all the critics were right.. this coming from a person who is an independent and believing this needed to happen. Truth is in the results.
 
Chapdog said:
Please comments on the results in MA. Here is a cut and paste from my response on another post on the subject:

We only have a 2.5% uninsured rate in MA. Its been 3 years since they enacted the new health care plan where you lose your tax deductions if you don't buy insurance and for low income there is a MA plan available to fit your needs. Very similar to what Obama is wanting to do on a federal level.

So how is it going? Well #1 the cost to the state has gone up 40% since they started this.. blowing away the projections. surprise surprise. #2 hospitals are starting to suffer because guess what; the state doesn't pay the bill either. Used to be that patients came in and didn't pay the bill and now more patients come in and the states not paying the bill. MA general is projecting massive deficits this year and may have to cut drs, nurses, close entire wings.. Not good. #3 The rate of people showing up at emergency rooms is the exact same as it was before.. unlike what they projected would happen which is go to normal checkups and well being appointments. #4 wait time has gone way up. worst in country now.


Sad to say all the critics were right.. this coming from a person who is an independent and believing this needed to happen. Truth is in the results.
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Do you have a link to all of the above stats? I would love to take a closer look at them. Thanks.
 
Superfreak said:
Do you have a link to all of the above stats? I would love to take a closer look at them. Thanks.
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They are factual stats but there are no specific links with all of them on it. You can research it rather easily. Its not a big secret.
 
Here is one article I found

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Gov. Deval Patrick has proposed restoring $70 million to the program, which would partly restore the immigrants’ coverage. But legislative leaders have balked, saying vital programs for other groups would have to be cut as a result. The cut, which would affect only nondisabled adults from 18 to 65 years old, would take effect in August unless the legislature approves Mr. Patrick’s proposal.

“The governor has made a very good and compelling case relative to providing for legal immigrants,” Robert A. DeLeo, the speaker of the State House of Representatives, said Monday. “On the other hand, there is only so much money that we have.”

With tax collections down by $2.7 billion in the fiscal year that ended June 30 and still dropping, lawmakers may have no choice but to make further cuts in the $27 billion budget approved this month. That makes Mr. Patrick’s proposal all the more problematic, according to the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, a nonpartisan watchdog group.

“It’s bad timing,” said Michael J. Widmer, the group’s president. “This budget casualty may be more under the national microscope than others, but there is no shortage of casualties across the board.”

Because of its three-year-old law, Massachusetts has the country’s lowest percentage of uninsured residents: 2.6 percent, compared with a national average of 15 percent. The law requires that almost every resident have insurance, and to meet that goal, the state subsidizes coverage for those earning up to three times the federal poverty level, or $66,150 for a family of four.

But the recession has made an already difficult experiment far more challenging. Enrollment in Commonwealth Care has risen sharply in recent months, to 181,000, as more people have lost jobs. That increase, combined with plummeting state revenues, made it impossible to maintain last year’s level of service, said Cyndi Roy, a spokeswoman for the state’s Executive Office for Administration and Finance.

In addition to dropping the immigrant insurance program, Commonwealth Care will save an estimated $63 million by no longer automatically enrolling low-income residents who fail to enroll themselves.

Under the 1996 federal law that overhauled the nation’s welfare system, the 30,000 immigrants affected by the loss of coverage also do not qualify for Medicaid or other federal aid. Massachusetts is one of the states, including California, New York and Pennsylvania, that nonetheless provide at least some health coverage for such immigrants.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/15/us/15insure.html?_r=1
 
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