Have Obama led democrats become international embarrassment?

Oh, now - you're just tacking on the bolded to tweak me.

Really mailing it in now.

Well, you were going on about being manipulated. Shouldn't you have actual evidence so you can know you aren't being played?

And the bit about not being able to reveal it on account of security issues---that's just a little too convenient. Anyone who buys that after what's been revealed over the past months is just plain gullible.
 
Our country interferes all over the globe. What makes it OK for us to do it? I'm not happy about Russian interference, but it doesn't concern me greatly. I appreciated the peek into the DNC and their antics. Am I supposed to feel bad that I got to see how corrupt the DNC was? Can you elaborate on what was detrimental to the election?

You know I am no Trumpkin. I am just really tired of democrats blaming everything but themselves. The democrats seem to think the ACA helped the working class. For many blue collar workers, who aren't all minimum wage earners as the democrats seem to think, the ACA caused them to pay more for worse coverage. This was the real reason for the lack of support for Hillary. But it's easier to blame the Russians

I'm also as critical of America for interfering around the globe. No one gets a free pass on this.

And like I said, I don't know or care if it actually changed the outcome. Access Hollywood may have changed the outcome too, if not for this or that. But the idea that a country like Russia, with a leader like Putin, is trying to actively meddle in a U.S. election?

It would be nice to see something from the Trump supporters aside from pure, unadulterated apologism.
 
Now all of a sudden you notice Putin is KGB? Where were you fucks four years ago when Romney called Russia our largest political threat? Oh yeah you were yucking it up over Obamas witty rejoinder.

You sniveling pussies never uttered a word about Russia being a threat until November 2016 when you didn't get your way.

And I guarenfuckingtee that if Hillary had won you wouldn't give two shits about Russia

There has been ZERO evidence that Russia had any impact on the outcome of this election

Are you saying Russia caused Feingold to lose? Toomey to win.

I get it. You see this as a way to absolve your sorry assed predictions about this election. You see if you convince yourself that Russia cheated you then you weren't really wrong were you?

But, hey if Russia really did interfere to keep Hillary out I say MISSION FUCKING ACCOMPLISHED.

This post is just rife w/ irony.

Look, if Hillary had won & the Russians had been intervening in her favor, I have absolutely no doubt: this would be 10x worse than the emails. It would be the scandal of the century.
 
This post is just rife w/ irony.

Look, if Hillary had won & the Russians had been intervening in her favor, I have absolutely no doubt: this would be 10x worse than the emails. It would be the scandal of the century.

No it would not. State media told us that Hillpig would win by 200 electoral votes. It would be a non issue.
 
Our country interferes all over the globe. What makes it OK for us to do it? I'm not happy about Russian interference, but it doesn't concern me greatly. I appreciated the peek into the DNC and their antics. Am I supposed to feel bad that I got to see how corrupt the DNC was? Can you elaborate on what was detrimental to the election?

You know I am no Trumpkin. I am just really tired of democrats blaming everything but themselves. The democrats seem to think the ACA helped the working class. For many blue collar workers, who aren't all minimum wage earners as the democrats seem to think, the ACA caused them to pay more for worse coverage. This was the real reason for the lack of support for Hillary. But it's easier to blame the Russians
excellent points. The Dems need to take some of that outrage and put it on the DNC and the crappy Clinton campaign.
I am just really tired of democrats blaming everything but themselves.
 
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