Has Ted Nugent been Dixie Chicked?

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You just lied. That's a blatant lie - right above there, in bold. You are a liar Yurt.

I have never said that people have no right to do any of what you said.

You lie - constantly.

my bad....you said those actions stifled speech, chilled speech....i didn't realize you believed they had a right to stifle and chill speech.

 

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And I'm tired of your lying bullshit, and your constant twisting of words. You clamor for "debate," you can't do it; at least not honestly.

Whose admin was Ari Fleischer in, anyway? I can't remember.

If anyone lived during that time period & doesn't remember the atmosphere or climate that was create w/ regard to free speech, there's not much I can do about it. You're a profound, profound idiot, Yurt - and a lying one, to boot.

still no examples....just more meltdown because onceler knows he can't actually discuss the issue....so out roll the insults....per his usual.

you're pathetic.

 

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so you can't find any real difference between the two....yet you of course, give obama's a pass and slam bush's.

LOL

I'm asking you questions about a law that you seem to have a problem with, yet you haven't explained what you find problematic about the bill. It's generally how a conversation works. If you say something and the person to whom you are speaking does not understand your meaning, that person will likely ask you what you mean.

 

[Onceler]

my bad....you said those actions stifled speech, chilled speech....i didn't realize you believed they had a right to stifle and chill speech.

Not "your bad" - it was the typical twisting of someone's words that we see out of you every day. You either can't read, or willfully lie about what people say.

As I said in my previous post - you are a profound idiot, and one who I have wasted enough time on today. Now, give us your best "translation: Onceler runs away", or whatever other canned BS you've got in that severely diminished noggin' of yours....

 

[Onceler]

Yurt wants examples of people not talking. Can anyone give me a suggestion on how to google that? Do I imagine what someone might have said, and google to see if they ever wrote about it afterwards?

Yurt - once again - you are an idiot.

 

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what? so you agree with me, but believe onceler has a strong perception of free speech?

Yes, but it just disagrees with our position. One can understand a concept, but not agree with the means to determine free speech. My boycott do make peope take action to limit their free speech. It is convoluted, because it is my right to boycott as a means to my free speech, but the reason I boycott is to let others know I do not like their free speech. Onceler's position that my exercising my free speech basically limits others free speech and it, in fact, does.

I may be wrong, but he doesn't think boycotting should be illegal, he just believes it limits free speech and it can.

 

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Yes, but it just disagrees with our position. One can understand a concept, but not agree with the means to determine free speech. My boycott do make peope take action to limit their free speech. It is convoluted, because it is my right to boycott as a means to my free speech, but the reason I boycott is to let others know I do not like their free speech. Onceler's position that my exercising my free speech basically limits others free speech and it, in fact, does.

I may be wrong, but he doesn't think boycotting should be illegal, he just believes it limits free speech and it can.

rana, i see what you're saying, however, i disagree. for me, if certain speech is protected, here boycotts, then that speech cannot limit other speech. for example, you are free to tell me to pound sand, i am free to tell you to shut up. me telling you to shut up is not limiting your speech, unless, you allow it to.

i don't believe boycotts, or at least a boycott that you or i would hold, are about - not liking the other party's free speech. the boycott is about the actual speech, not about their right to speak. if an artist/actor etc....makes a public comment i don't agree with, i have a yet to voice my opposition to that and that includes a boycott.

 

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Yurt wants examples of people not talking. Can anyone give me a suggestion on how to google that? Do I imagine what someone might have said, and google to see if they ever wrote about it afterwards?

Yurt - once again - you are an idiot.

still no examples of speech being chilled.....

yawn

 

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I'm asking you questions about a law that you seem to have a problem with, yet you haven't explained what you find problematic about the bill. It's generally how a conversation works. If you say something and the person to whom you are speaking does not understand your meaning, that person will likely ask you what you mean.

i only brought up the law because someone had an issue with bush's similar law. i can't believe this is so difficult for you. i'm not surprised you can't find any real differences.

btw...so you can rest your heavy head....i don't support either law.

 

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Not "your bad" - it was the typical twisting of someone's words that we see out of you every day. You either can't read, or willfully lie about what people say.

As I said in my previous post - you are a profound idiot, and one who I have wasted enough time on today. Now, give us your best "translation: Onceler runs away", or whatever other canned BS you've got in that severely diminished noggin' of yours....

so you never said those actions chilled speech?

It's unbecoming to get all parsey about it. It certainly discouraged speech. That, combined with the Dixie Chicks boycott, combined with calling just about anyone who disagreed w/ Bush a "traitor" or "terrorist lover," had a net effect of sending a chill through the populace and keeping people quiet. Call it what you want, but it wasn't a vibrant marketplace of ideas, where dissent was welcomed & new ideas were encouraged. To me, it didn't feel at all like what America is about.

and you call me a liar...

 

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i only brought up the law because someone had an issue with bush's similar law. i can't believe this is so difficult for you. i'm not surprised you can't find any real differences.

btw...so you can rest your heavy head....i don't support either law.

I don't know what "Bush's law" is? The law has existed in some form since the 1970s. I don't understand what the issue is with it and still don't. I get that you don't support it or like it, but I don't understand why. I also don't understand why you think the changes from the prior version were all that significant from a free speech perspective.

I guess the answers to these questions will remain among the great mysteries of the universe.

 

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Yurt's hilarious. The conversation is about Bush, Iraq and the Dixie Chicks, and of course, all he can do is his usual "what about Obama? what about lefties? huh? huh?"

Crazy...

That's another one of his tricks for thread derailment...

 

[Onceler]

so you never said those actions chilled speech?



and you call me a liar...

I've said that those actions chill speech dozens of times. I have never said that people don't have a right to do any of them.

How unsurprising is it that you don't understand the difference? You're really an idiot, Yurt.

 

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Well, what's the problem with it and how does it compare to existing law?

how is it different than the law rana cited? that is the question.

Guess the question the General put to you was just too tough to answer, eh?

 

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i only brought up the law because someone had an issue with bush's similar law. i can't believe this is so difficult for you. i'm not surprised you can't find any real differences.

btw...so you can rest your heavy head....i don't support either law.

No you brought it up in another petty attempt to avoid answering the General's question.

 

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No you brought it up in another petty attempt to avoid answering the General's question.

oh, so you can read my mind.....

LOL

your two faced bs is hilarious zappa. it is weird that you don't see it.

 

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I've said that those actions chill speech dozens of times. I have never said that people don't have a right to do any of them.

How unsurprising is it that you don't understand the difference? You're really an idiot, Yurt.

right....then how did i twist your words? oooops.

 

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I don't know what "Bush's law" is? The law has existed in some form since the 1970s. I don't understand what the issue is with it and still don't. I get that you don't support it or like it, but I don't understand why. I also don't understand why you think the changes from the prior version were all that significant from a free speech perspective.

I guess the answers to these questions will remain among the great mysteries of the universe.

of course you don't get it. a left leaning poster posts virtually the same law signed by bush and you of course have zero problem with it. i merely post the law obama signed, that is very similar, and you have a serious issue with it.

TFF

 

[Bonestorm]

of course you don't get it. a left leaning poster posts virtually the same law signed by bush and you of course have zero problem with it. i merely post the law obama signed, that is very similar, and you have a serious issue with it.

TFF

What post are you talking about? I honestly have no idea what you are talking about and am no closer to understanding what you find problematic with the law than I was a while ago.

You're a strange case, Yurt. How difficult is it for you to tell me what you find troubling with the law?

 

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http://www.theamericanconservative.com/article/2003/dec/15/00012/

dung....heap