Has anyone noted any toning down of rhetoric?

Honesty and zappa live in opposing universes~

Honesty an ANY liberal, for that matter. That's why I think it was hilarious the president called for "civil and honest dialogue" ...they wouldn't know civility and honesty if it were slapping them in their goofy faces. They have NO intentions of being either civil or honest in anything they do, much less, in the dialogue with the right.
 
Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.

I will stand against you and so will millions of others. We believe in something. You in the media and most in Washington don't. The radicals that you and Washington have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing — change the pose. You will get the ends.

You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.


Now, that's what I read... Did you pinheads read something else? He did not call for conservatives to go shoot people in the head! That is a characterization you are making out of what he actually said, and it's what I alluded to in the OP, regarding your new found "HONEST" debate! It's about as despicably DISHONEST as it gets, to claim Beck was calling for people to go shoot liberals in the head.

More of the "kinder and gentler" Beck:

A campaign has begun to defend a longtime professor and activist from the frequent attacks of Glenn Beck—and the death threats that the attacks have brought with them.

Frances Fox Piven, a 78-year-old professor and political theorist, has been the subject of harsh criticism by Beck for years. Now, the Center for Constitutional Rights has written a letter to Roger Ailes, CEO of Fox News, asking for his "immediate help in stopping false accusations by Glenn Beck that are putting Professor Piven in danger."

Beck has cast Piven—who is now a professor at the City University of New York—and her late husband, fellow academic Richard Cloward, as the architects of the economic crisis and key influences behind what Beck sees as Barack Obama's drive to break down and radically transform the American government.

In one broadcast, Beck described Piven and Cloward as "the people who you would say are fundamentally responsible for the unsustainability and possible collapse of our economic system." Piven is also a frequent target on Beck's news site, The Blaze; one headline on a recent article reads, "Frances Fox Piven Rings In The New Year By Calling For Violent Revolution."

As recently as Monday, Beck devoted over seven minutes of his TV show to Piven, repeatedly calling her an "enemy of the Constitution" due to an article she wrote for The Nation in which she praised the demonstrations and civil disobedience that occurred in Britain and Greece in the past few months.

He also included her in a pledge that he asked members of Congress to sign following the Arizona shootings. In it, he compared her to a violent, far-right militia whose members are now in jail for conspiring to overthrow the U.S. government.

"I denounce violent threats and calls for the destruction of our system - regardless of their underlying ideology - whether they come from the Hutaree Militia or Frances Fox Piven," Beck's statement read.

The main source of Beck's continued ire is an article Piven and Cloward wrote in 1966, which called for a movement to overwhelm the public welfare rolls in an effort to bring about a guaranteed national income.

Since then, Piven has remained a high-profile political sociologist. She was a chair of the American Sociological Association and was instrumental in getting a law passed which allowed people to register to vote at DMV's. In the past few years, though, she has received multiple death threats as a result of Beck's attacks on her, as she told The Progressive magazine:

"I got e-mails that said, 'Die You C-nt,' and 'May cancer find you soon.' And people are posting my address on the Internet with their messages that are really crude and ugly and violent."

In its letter, the Center for Constitutional Rights ran through some of the violent comments that readers of The Blaze have left on articles about Piven. They include:

"Maybe they should burst through the fron door of this arrogant elitist and slit the hateful cow's throat."

"We should blow up Piven's office and home."

"Big lots is having a rope sale I hear, you buy the rope and I will hang the wench. I will spin her as she hangs."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/21/glenn-beck-target-frances_n_812268.html
 
let's be honest...if that were true half the posters here would have hunted you down and killed you already.......

Considering there are a greater number of posters here who are Righties I see you're assuming the majority of them are mentally disturbed.

Have you considered becoming a spokesperson for the Republican Party? :)
 
You're a walking libtard cliche.
Can you cite some examples of the dangerous glenn beck?

Tides Foundation, Byron Williams.

Byron Williams "loaded up his mother's Toyota Tundra with guns, strapped on his body armor and headed to San Francisco...with one thing in mind: to kill workers" at the ACLU and the Tides Foundation, hoping to "start a revolution."

Fortunately, a horrible act of domestic terrorism was averted.

BYRON WILLIAMS: I would've never started watching Fox if it wasn't for the fact that Beck was on there. And it was the things that he did, it was the things he exposed that blew my mind. I said, well, nobody does this.

200px-Brady_Campaign_logo.png


Glenn Beck’s Violent Words Harm America

by Paul Helmke on August 3rd, 2010


byronwilliams.jpg

Byron Williams

Ever heard of the Tides Foundation? Like most Americans, I wasn’t familiar with it, either. I only recently learned about Tide’s history of support for progressive causes, such as environmentalism, human rights, education, and combating the global AIDS crisis.

Sadly, I only got wind of what this foundation does because of what’s happened since Fox News Host Glenn Beck started to dishonestly attack the work of Tides as part of a plan to “seize power and destroy capitalism.”

Beck has used his TV show and his celebrity at least 29 times over 18 months to disparage this foundation with inflammatory rhetoric — rhetoric which recently inspired one of his California viewers to start a “revolution” against Tides’ leaders by attempting to kill them.

On the way to Tides, California Highway Patrol officers noticed Byron Williams’ erratic driving. When they intervened, Williams, who was twice convicted of bank robbery, shot his weapons — a 9mm handgun, a shotgun and a .308-caliber rifle with armor-piercing bullets. Thankfully, only bullet-shattered glass injured two officers.

As a lawyer who has practiced and taught First Amendment law, I appreciate Beck’s right to speak his mind on any issue. But as a former First Amendment lawyer and instructor, I also know that with this freedom comes responsibility, and just as important, consequences.

Williams (pictured above) pulled the trigger on those two officers, but Beck’s harsh rhetoric against Tides and other leaders of progressive groups, whom he identifies as “enemies,” have helped stoke the fires of outrage in a sector of the American public that is armed and eager to do battle with foes that they believe — or have been led to believe – are in some way destroying our country.

Beck acknowledges that he has viewers who are capable of responding violently to his hyperbolic accusations. He has warned, “it is only a matter of time before an actual crazy person really does something stupid.”

But this recognition of the power and consequences of his words have not dampened his enthusiasm for injecting them with violence to hammer home his perspective. According to Dana Milbank of the Washington Post, some of Beck’s favorite phrases include: “The war is just beginning . . .. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government . . .. There is a coup going on . . .. Grab a torch! . . . Drive a stake through the heart of the bloodsuckers . . .. They are taking you to a place to be slaughtered . . .. They are putting a gun to America’s head . . .. Hold these people responsible.”

http://blog.bradycampaign.org/?p=2569
 
More of the "kinder and gentler" Beck:

A campaign has begun to defend a longtime professor and activist from the frequent attacks of Glenn Beck—and the death threats that the attacks have brought with them.

Frances Fox Piven, a 78-year-old professor and political theorist, has been the subject of harsh criticism by Beck for years. Now, the Center for Constitutional Rights has written a letter to Roger Ailes, CEO of Fox News, asking for his "immediate help in stopping false accusations by Glenn Beck that are putting Professor Piven in danger."

Beck has cast Piven—who is now a professor at the City University of New York—and her late husband, fellow academic Richard Cloward, as the architects of the economic crisis and key influences behind what Beck sees as Barack Obama's drive to break down and radically transform the American government.

In one broadcast, Beck described Piven and Cloward as "the people who you would say are fundamentally responsible for the unsustainability and possible collapse of our economic system." Piven is also a frequent target on Beck's news site, The Blaze; one headline on a recent article reads, "Frances Fox Piven Rings In The New Year By Calling For Violent Revolution."

As recently as Monday, Beck devoted over seven minutes of his TV show to Piven, repeatedly calling her an "enemy of the Constitution" due to an article she wrote for The Nation in which she praised the demonstrations and civil disobedience that occurred in Britain and Greece in the past few months.

He also included her in a pledge that he asked members of Congress to sign following the Arizona shootings. In it, he compared her to a violent, far-right militia whose members are now in jail for conspiring to overthrow the U.S. government.

"I denounce violent threats and calls for the destruction of our system - regardless of their underlying ideology - whether they come from the Hutaree Militia or Frances Fox Piven," Beck's statement read.

The main source of Beck's continued ire is an article Piven and Cloward wrote in 1966, which called for a movement to overwhelm the public welfare rolls in an effort to bring about a guaranteed national income.

Since then, Piven has remained a high-profile political sociologist. She was a chair of the American Sociological Association and was instrumental in getting a law passed which allowed people to register to vote at DMV's. In the past few years, though, she has received multiple death threats as a result of Beck's attacks on her, as she told The Progressive magazine:

"I got e-mails that said, 'Die You C-nt,' and 'May cancer find you soon.' And people are posting my address on the Internet with their messages that are really crude and ugly and violent."

In its letter, the Center for Constitutional Rights ran through some of the violent comments that readers of The Blaze have left on articles about Piven. They include:

"Maybe they should burst through the fron door of this arrogant elitist and slit the hateful cow's throat."

"We should blow up Piven's office and home."

"Big lots is having a rope sale I hear, you buy the rope and I will hang the wench. I will spin her as she hangs."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/21/glenn-beck-target-frances_n_812268.html

So now, you are going to run away from your LIE that Beck called for the shooting of liberals in the head, and attempt to replace your original lie with some load of crap from HUFPO? These bolded quotes you posted, did not come from Glenn Beck, or anyone on the mainstream right. They are PURPORTED to come from right-wingers who sent her emails and/or posted remarks in response to an article... How do we know these people were not liberals posing as conservatives? How do we know the people who posted those things, even exist? Should we have Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and others, post some of the hate mail they get? I'll bet you this pales in comparison.
 
That's right you dishonest bunch of hypocrites, post your HUFPO propaganda! Keep LYING and DISTORTING the facts! While your own president is calling for you to have honest and civil dialogue, you just keep on with the vitriolic and hateful tone, insinuating outright LIES on people who disagree with you! As I said, you fuckwits wouldn't know honesty if it were sitting in your lap calling you "Mama!"
 
Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.

I will stand against you and so will millions of others. We believe in something. You in the media and most in Washington don't. The radicals that you and Washington have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing — change the pose. You will get the ends.

You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.


Now, that's what I read... Did you pinheads read something else? He did not call for conservatives to go shoot people in the head! That is a characterization you are making out of what he actually said, and it's what I alluded to in the OP, regarding your new found "HONEST" debate! It's about as despicably DISHONEST as it gets, to claim Beck was calling for people to go shoot liberals in the head.

You say he didn't call for conservatives to shoot progressives in the head?

Right from your post...BECK'S own words: "You're going to have to shoot them in the head."
 
You say he didn't call for conservatives to shoot progressives in the head?

Right from your post...BECK'S own words: "You're going to have to shoot them in the head."

YOU'RE (he is talking to progressives) GOING TO HAVE TO SHOOT THEM (meaning communists) IN THE HEAD...

You are taking his comments completely out of the context presented, and switching it around. You are pretending he is saying the exact opposite of what he actually said, which is precisely what I posted in the OP.
 
Last edited:
The radicals that you and Washington (progressives) have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing — change the pose. You will get the ends. (from the communists)

You've (progressives) been using them (communists)? They (communists) believe in communism. They (communists) believe and have called for a revolution. You're (progressives) going to have to shoot them (communists) in the head. But warning, they (communists) may shoot you (progressives).

IS that broken down well enough for your retarded mind to comprehend?
 
YOU'RE (he is talking to progressives) GOING TO HAVE TO SHOOT THEM (meaning communists) IN THE HEAD...

You are taking his comments completely out of the context presented, and switching it around. You are pretending he is saying the exact opposite of what he actually said, which is precisely what I posted in the OP.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

"He was talking to progressives"...is there no lie you won't tell to try and spin your lies?

That's why he said "THEY believe in communism. THEY believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot THEM in the head."

Yeah...he was talking to progressives...his USUAL audience.
 
YOU'RE (he is talking to progressives) GOING TO HAVE TO SHOOT THEM (meaning communists) IN THE HEAD...

You are taking his comments completely out of the context presented, and switching it around. You are pretending he is saying the exact opposite of what he actually said, which is precisely what I posted in the OP.

WOW...what a dishonest fuck you are Dixie.

They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.

They are dangerous because they believe. Karl Marx is their George Washington. You will never change their mind. And if they feel you have lied to them — they're revolutionaries. Nancy Pelosi, those are the people you should be worried about.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,594343,00.html#ixzz1BnJmrv6H
 
The radicals that you and Washington (progressives) have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing — change the pose. You will get the ends. (from the communists)

You've (progressives) been using them (communists)? They (communists) believe in communism. They (communists) believe and have called for a revolution. You're (progressives) going to have to shoot them (communists) in the head. But warning, they (communists) may shoot you (progressives).

IS that broken down well enough for your retarded mind to comprehend?

One problem...none of those words in blue were said by Beck.

They were just another instance of YOU PUTTING WORDS IN BECK'S MOUTH.

I can add my own words just as you did and change it to suit my needs too if you like.
 
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight...

"He was talking to progressives"...is there no lie you won't tell to try and spin your lies?

That's why he said "THEY believe in communism. THEY believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot THEM in the head."

Yeah...he was talking to progressives...his USUAL audience.

Yes, communists believe in communism, sorry you didn't realize that. I broke down his statement and labeled who he was talking about in blue, and if you read the CONTEXT of his entire statement, you will understand, he was not talking to conservatives, he was talking to progressives who are using communists to do their bidding!
 
One problem...none of those words in blue were said by Beck.

They were just another instance of YOU PUTTING WORDS IN BECK'S MOUTH.

I can add my own words just as you did and change it to suit my needs too if you like.

No, and neither was "conservatives" used by Beck. He just said "you" and "them" ...so we have to read the context of who he is talking about, and anyone with more than an ounce of functioning brain matter, can clearly see, he did not call for conservatives to shoot liberals in the head! I mean, come on man, do you HONESTLY think Beck would still be on the air, if THAT is what he said? Stop being ridiculous!
 
Yes, communists believe in communism, sorry you didn't realize that. I broke down his statement and labeled who he was talking about in blue, and if you read the CONTEXT of his entire statement, you will understand, he was not talking to conservatives, he was talking to progressives who are using communists to do their bidding!

Ya know the reason that statement makes so much sense?

Because Beck spends the lion's share of his time speaking to Progressives.

His TV show is targeted towards progressives...his radio show is likewise targeted towards progressives...when he tours the country, speaking before audiences, entire auditoriums are FILLED with progressives hanging on his every word.
 
Ya know the reason that statement makes so much sense?

Because Beck spends the lion's share of his time speaking to Progressives.

His TV show is targeted towards progressives...his radio show is likewise targeted towards progressives...when he tours the country, speaking before audiences, entire auditoriums are FILLED with progressives hanging on his every word.

Well, yeah, it was somewhat rhetorical for him to be talking to people who weren't listening to him... but that WAS who he was talking to.

I will stand against you and so will millions of others. (sound like he is talking to conservatives here, pinheads?) We believe in something. You in the media and most in Washington don't. The radicals that you and Washington have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing — change the pose. You will get the ends.

You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.


So is Beck saying he and millions of others are going to stand against conservatives and the right? "I will stand against you, and so will millions of others..." Do you retards take that to mean Beck is going to stand against his audience? Against the mainstream right? Against Conservatives? Because, that isn't the intention I get from his statement at all. I think he is talking about progressives when he says he will stand against "you." But maybe you can make a case for your "honest" perceptions of what he said... I'll wait!
 
Chris Matthews is an asshole. Glenn Beck goes way beyond asshole. He is a threat to the safety of AMERICANS who he paints as being so evil that they should be shot in the head.
What nonsense...
Read it in context...

Tea parties believe in small government. We believe in returning to the principles of our Founding Fathers. We respect them. We revere them. Shoot me in the head before I stop talking about the Founders. Shoot me in the head if you try to change our government.
I will stand against you and so will millions of others. We believe in something. You in the media and most in Washington don't. The radicals that you and Washington have co-opted and brought in wearing sheep's clothing — change the pose. You will get the ends.
You've been using them? They believe in communism. They believe and have called for a revolution. You're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.
He is saying "they have called for a revolution and you're going to have to shoot them in the head. But warning, they may shoot you.

In other words...."you're going to have to protect yourselves"....

Thats a concept we all believe in..."context" is everything.....and this crap is 6 months ago and has nothing to do with the topic of the thread.
 
Back
Top