Happy Thanksgiving

[Dutch Uncle]

I just can’t participate in Jarod’s thread. So I’m making my own and if the powers deem they need to be merged then so be it.

I don’t know what kind of history some of you were taught in the public schools or college, but we were shown two sides of the Thanksgiving story. We learned about the Wampanoag people and the Pilgrims, celebrating together. We were told how the Natives helped keep the Pilgrims from starving prior to that event. Yes, we eventually were taught about the atrocities some of the Europeans committed against the Natives in the history of our nation, but that wasn’t whatat Thanksgiving was about. We were taught that eventually there was a campaign to make Thanksgiving an American holiday and that Lincoln finally proclaimed it as such…to be celebrated in November. Finally, in an economic move, FDR declared it to be celebrated on the 4th Thursday in November.

Let me say again, we weren’t spared the history of the plight of the Natives. We weren’t sheltered from the Andrew Jackson’s or the Wounded Knee’s. But our history is what it is. You can’t go back and re-write it. Natives were treated badly and killed in the making of this country. But Natives can and do quite well nowadays playing in the system the white man has created. That is what you do. Our tribe makes millions every year and helps multiple Choctaw entrepreneurs get businesses started. Many are very successful. It is the culture in which we live. At the same time, my tribe continues to celebrate Thanksgiving while holding to our own traditional cultural celebrations at other times throughout the year.

For me, the statements and efforts that want to highlight the negative and make it seem that somehow the white man isn’t deserving of what he has in this country (obviously you haven’t seen the poor white people I deal with on a daily basis) are getting quite old. If true history is taught in my ruby red state (still not a blue county) then I’m sure it’s getting taught elsewhere, just maybe not with the self-loathing that some seem to want.

So I just wanted to say Happy Thanksgiving to everyone here. I’ve never see any of you but have known some of you nearly 30 years. Eat some turkey (or chicken, fish or ham) and some pie. Watch some football. And find those things to be thankful for, like maybe the fact that you’re not a Dallas Cowboys fan (as I am)…

I Thessalonians 5:18 — in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

Happy Thanksgiving. Yeah, I get it about the Natives. I'm still pissed about the fucking Roman cocksuckers attacking my ancestors then, when they left, the fucking English kept doing the same. Fuck the Redcoats!!!

FWIW, the vast majority of human history is written in human blood. It shouldn't be condoned, but it's the reality. The good news is that the world is getting better. The United States isn't perfect by a longshot, but most Americans are trying to do the right thing.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

The screaming, lying, election-distraught, Lefties are not worth destroying our normal Thanks Giving Holiday...
...Tomorrow will be soon enough to "stick a maggot hole in their bellies".

One of the most negative Thanksgiving sentiments I've ever seen.

Most MAGAts are weak and very unhappy people. Notice how they blame others for their own problems and seek to both divide and harm other Americans. Sad.

 

[serendipity]

I just can’t participate in Jarod’s thread. So I’m making my own and if the powers deem they need to be merged then so be it.

I don’t know what kind of history some of you were taught in the public schools or college, but we were shown two sides of the Thanksgiving story. We learned about the Wampanoag people and the Pilgrims, celebrating together. We were told how the Natives helped keep the Pilgrims from starving prior to that event. Yes, we eventually were taught about the atrocities some of the Europeans committed against the Natives in the history of our nation, but that wasn’t what Thanksgiving was about. We were taught that eventually there was a campaign to make Thanksgiving an American holiday and that Lincoln finally proclaimed it as such…to be celebrated in November. Finally, in an economic move, FDR declared it to be celebrated on the 4th Thursday in November.

Let me say again, we weren’t spared the history of the plight of the Natives. We weren’t sheltered from the Andrew Jackson’s or the Wounded Knee’s. But our history is what it is. You can’t go back and re-write it. Natives were treated badly and killed in the making of this country. But Natives can and do quite well nowadays playing in the system the white man has created. That is what you do. Our tribe makes millions every year and helps multiple Choctaw entrepreneurs get businesses started. Many are very successful. It is the culture in which we live. At the same time, my tribe continues to celebrate Thanksgiving while holding to our own traditional cultural celebrations at other times throughout the year.

For me, the statements and efforts that want to highlight the negative and make it seem that somehow the white man isn’t deserving of what he has in this country (obviously you haven’t seen the poor white people I deal with on a daily basis) are getting quite old. If true history is taught in my ruby red state (still not a blue county) then I’m sure it’s getting taught elsewhere, just maybe not with the self-loathing that some seem to want.

So I just wanted to say Happy Thanksgiving to everyone here. I’ve never see any of you but have known some of you nearly 30 years. Eat some turkey (or chicken, fish or ham) and some pie. Watch some football. And find those things to be thankful for, like maybe the fact that you’re not a Dallas Cowboys fan (as I am)…

I Thessalonians 5:18 — in everything give thanks; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

I quite understand why you refuse to be a part of Jarhead's thread, he is truly an annoying little man. Anyway hope you had a great Thanksgiving.

 

[Mott the Hoople]

Assuming you didn’t just copy that off ChatGPT (LOL), really enjoyed reading that

LOL You know me better than that. I became interested in American Frontier history when I was young and first learned about St. Clair’s massacre on the headwaters of the Wabash River at present day Ft. Recovery. Which is about 7 miles from where I lived in Coldwater.

It was not only the greatest victory of Native Americans over the U.S. army but still stands today as the worst defeat in terms of the percentage of casualties that the U.S. Army has ever suffered as around 90% of Gen St. Clair’s soldiers and camp followers were killed by a coalition of Native tribes (Miami, Shawnee and Lenape) led by Little Turtle (Michikiniqua- Miami and overall commander), Blue Jacket (Wayapiersinwah - Shawnee), and Buckangahela (Lenape) in 1792.