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If American citizens are violent criminals, it is not ICE supposed to arrest them. But there is nothing to prove that these American citizens are violent criminals. They were arrested for being Black and having Hispanic next door neighbors.


Is that so, Salty Walty?
 
You are not an American citizen when you are not an American citizen
American Blacks, who have ancestry that goes back to before 1808, are American citizens. Living next to Venezuelan immigrants who got their visas cancelled does not make them not American citizens.

ICE has no right to throw hand grenades into their homes, or arrest them. When arrested, they cannot be held for weeks trying to make them sign paperwork saying they have not been mistreated.
 
When arrested, they cannot be held for weeks trying to make them sign paperwork saying they have not been mistreated.

Errors happen, Salty Walty. Wrong is wrong, and it's not specific to the current Administration, Salty Walty.

It should be redressed, and I believe that it almost always is, Salty Walty.

Similar cases of ICE arresting and detaining U.S. citizens for days, weeks, or months—often in harsh conditions, without prompt access to counsel, and despite evidence of citizenship—have been well-documented across previous administrations, including Obama (2009–2017), Trump’s first term (2017–2021), and Biden (2021–2025). These incidents predate the 2025 surge and stem from the same systemic flaws: flawed databases, racial profiling, local jail-ICE data-sharing programs like Secure Communities, and weak internal verification protocols.

Below are verified examples by administration, drawn from court records, GAO reports, investigative journalism, and advocacy documentation.

Obama Administration (2009–2017): This period saw the highest deportation numbers in U.S. history (over 3 million), driven by expanded interior enforcement and programs like Secure Communities, which automatically flagged people in local jails to ICE via fingerprints. A 2011 Northwestern University study estimated 1.6% of ICE detainers (around 5,800 annually) were issued against U.S. citizens. A landmark 2018 ACLU analysis of ICE data found at least 2,000 citizens detained during this era.
  • Davino Watson, New York (2011): A U.S. citizen born in Jamaica but naturalized as a child, Watson was detained for 3.5 years after ICE misclassified him as deportable due to a clerical error. Despite his repeated claims and family-provided naturalization certificate, ICE held him in Alabama and Louisiana facilities, transferring him multiple times to thwart legal access. A federal appeals court later ruled ICE violated due process, awarding him $82,500.
  • Mark Daniel Lyttle (2009): Lyttle’s 51-day detention and deportation to Mexico occurred after Obama took office. Born in North Carolina with cognitive disabilities, he was held in North Carolina, Georgia, and Texas, then flown to Mexico with $3 in his pocket despite no Spanish fluency. The Fourth Circuit Court ruled ICE acted with “deliberate indifference.” The case became a symbol of Obama-era overreach.
  • Antonio Montejano, California (2010): A U.S. citizen and Marine Corps veteran was detained for four days in Los Angeles after a traffic stop. Despite showing his military ID, ICE held him in a county jail under a detainer. Released only after media pressure, his case was one of dozens documented by the ACLU in California alone.
Did you complain when Obama's ICE did these things, Salty Walty?

Answer "yes" or "no", Salty Walty.
 
Errors happen
I do not know if I would call throwing a hand grenade into someone's house an "error." It along with knowingly illegally arresting thousands of American citizens seems to be an on-purpose act of terrorism.

That along with ramming Americans' cars, attacking Americans on the street, shooting Americans, etc. It all seems to be a calculated campaign of terror. Throw into that the destruction of evidence, which shows knowledge of guilt.

It should be redressed
So you support the order of US District Judge Ellis in demanding meetings to redress this out of control violence against US citizens?
 
I do not know if I would call throwing a hand grenade into someone's house an "error."

If it wasn't an error, then what are you complaining about, Salty Walty?

It along with knowingly illegally arresting thousands of American citizens seems to be an on-purpose act of terrorism.

"Seems", Salty Walty?

Post your evidence that ICE is "knowingly illegally arresting thousands of American citizens", Salty Walty.

That along with ramming Americans' cars, attacking Americans on the street, shooting Americans, etc. It all seems to be a calculated campaign of terror.

Care to provide some context for those claims, Salty Walty?

Throw into that the destruction of evidence, which shows knowledge of guilt.

So you say, Salty Walty. Did you protest when similar mistakes occurred under the Obama and Biden Administrations, Salty Walty?

So you support the order of US District Judge Ellis in demanding meetings to redress this out of control violence against US citizens?

Not exactly au courant, are you, Salty Walty?

The 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals granted an emergency administrative stay that same day, halting the meetings just before the first one was due.
 
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