“Gun Violence in America”

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No one does when we don’t know precisely the numbers on guns, how many were shot and how they were shot, only the ignorant proceed in the dark claiming they know the way

You are describing yourself.

 

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There are a lot more guns out there now than in 1985, and when one can buy a gun on the regular Internet it can't get any easier

Think about that, dumbass. You're going to try to take them away???????!?

 

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COVID 1 in 12 but mainly for the "masks don't work" and anti-vax dumbasses. Not really a loss.

BULLSHIT.

 

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No, no need or desire, and I live smack in the middle of one of those areas you people think are ridden with crime and murder

A walking victim.

 

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How many times does it have to be explained to you?

Crime, homicide statistics, local communities provide to the FBI and CDC are completely voluntary, and estimates are that as many as forty percent never get forwarded. We do not even know the full extent of gun violence in America and from what we do know it is off the charts and inane

All police departments report homicide information to the FBI.
No one reports it to the CDC. The CDC uses FBI data.

 

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And again, seems I have to repeat the same facts over and over to wingers, Babe Ruth couldn't have hit all those home runs if he didn't have a bat

Pivot fallacy. Trolling. No argument presented.

 

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Another, here we go again, the Black guy did it

Last I knew, Black, Yellow, Brown, White, whatever, they are all Americans, and I can’t recall many instances of mass shootings, school shootings, grocery store shootings, spa shootings, church shootings, mall shootings, etc, where the shooter was Black

Again, what is your solution?

 

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Still doesn’t negate that fact that in the overwhelming majority of all shootings some supposed “good guy with a gun” did not stop the shooter, and by the way, not that it matters, I qualified with five weapons including the Browning 50 caliber machine gun in the service

So again, what is your solution?

 

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With the having to resort to the "freedom" cliché you pretty much confirmed the fact that you just can't accept the truth, regulating guns is not eliminating a constitutional right, all constitutional rights can, are, and have always been, regulated, guns are no different, even Scalia confirmed it in his majority opinion in Heller

Discard of the Constitution of the United States. Lie. SCOTUS does not have authority to change the Constitution. Circular argument fallacy (fundamentalism).

 

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Nothing we aren’t already doing, for example, treat guns like we do vehicles, to include liability insurance, testing, renewing registrations, etc.

Again, criminals don't obey laws. Law abiding citizens do. None of that would do anything to prevent another nut from shooting up the place. Next?

 

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Yeah. especially when he is mascaraing kids in schools, seniors praying in churches, individuals shopping for groceries, unassuming young adults attending a concert, patriotic Americans celebrating July 4th, etc., etc., etc., the list goes on and on and on, numbers escalating by the year

Blame Democrats, that do NOTHING about criminals and violent people except release them from prison. It is DEMOCRATS that created the "Catch and Release" program for criminals! Special pleading fallacy. Inversion fallacy.

These are examples of why it is important for citizens to carry guns.

 

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There are always going to be targets “less likely to have armed resistance,” you can not defend them all, nor can you predict the next shooter, the only variable we have to work with is that which makes it all possible, the gun

The gun is not the problem halfwit. It's the perpetrator. So your solution is ban private ownership of guns? Is that correct?

 

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.....but that still leaves close to fifteen thousand Americans as homicide victims, way and above any other developed nation in the world

Most of those are inner city blacks killing other blacks in Democratically controlled urban shit holes. Democrats don't give a shit about those statistics.

 

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No one is free if they have to live in fear of being shot while going to a movie, church, mall, parade, theater, spa, grocery store, spa, club, senior citizen center, school, concert, etc.

You have a better chance of dying in an automobile accident. So do you still drive?

 

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every historical piece of documentation from the founders clearly indicate that the feds had zero power over the arms of the people. THAT is the truth. the only ones who want the rights of others regulated are cowards, those who need government to make them feel safer

The founders clearly understood that the right to self defense is inherent. That's why they NEVER GAVE power to ban or limit guns to the federal government, and later specifically banned all States and the federal government from messing with this right, as part of the Bill of Rights.

 

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Nah, their doing it in gun free Red States, and I can’t recall any of the black city dwellers you are afraid of shooting up schools, churches, malls, theaters, etc.,

That's pure unadulterated bullshit halfwit. New York isn't a red state. Colorado, not a red state. Massachusetts, not a red state. Illinois, not a red state. California, not a red state. Pennsylvania, not a red state.

 

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Given the num wars involved, nearly a certainly, but we do take all kinds of measures to prevent such, but next to nothing with guns

More bullshit from the halfwit. Have you ever tried to buy a gun halfwit? Of course you haven't. Most low IQ halfwit leftists like yourself never do much of anything except lie and cry.

 

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Fingering blame never fixes the problem.

Yes it does. I will call this Argument 1.

The first step to any problem is to know there's a problem.

The problem is that Democrats want to ban or limit guns, discarding the Constitution.

I doubt anyone disagrees upon the nature of the problem.

YOU and other Democrats certainly don't.

The controversy is on how to fix it....and libs aren't the only part of the controversy.

They are the ONLY part of the controversy. They are the only ones attempting to discard the Constitution.

What is your solution for city gang problems?

Enforce the law. Stop the Democrat "Catch and Release" program.

Aren't most criminal organizations funded by criminal activities from banned shit like drugs, guns and, now, abortions?

Think about that, Dutch. These are black markets, CREATED by DEMOCRATS and RINOs. No, gangs are not funded by abortions.

 

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you would think that prohibition would have given them that answer, but I guess maybe it's the nature of government to continually chip away at freedom and slaves to demand it.

I think Dutch is too stupid to see the answer that is now right in front of him.

 

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I know you like to blame the government but the reality is we get the government deserve because Americans keep voting them into office.

The government bureaucrats doing this were NOT VOTED INTO OFFICE!

Your violent revolution approach won't work since this is a cultural problem, not a single entity/group problem.

Word stuffing. He is not suggesting a violent revolution. It may come anyway though.

If you really want democracy, you have to be willing to live with the consequences.

I do not want democracy. It is an unstable form of government. The United States was never a democracy. No State is a democracy.