“Gun Violence in America”

leaningright said:
Couldn’t agree more. My dad is 91, still gardens, mows his 1 acre yard and drives the 25 miles to town. He takes care of the money for the church congregation where he attends. I’m happy for him.

By contrast I had a bass tournament buddy who had a stroke at 55, languished in a nursing home for 4 years before dying. It was a sad deal.

Then, my mom died suddenly at 70 after a full day of helping with a community meal and quilting with her group. I alway like to say that “she lived until she died.”

I’ve always considered that if I was unable to go and do or was dependent on someone for constant care I’d rather go ahead and go. Guess we don’t get to choose though.

But I digress…don’t want to derail the thread too much. There is only one way to curtail gun violence…
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Shoot back.
 
archives said:
Once again, space aliens and bird droppings don’t kill people, guns do, innocent people, and with guns, large numbers of people in seconds. And to imply we shouldn’t worry about kids getting massacred in schools is inane

No one is eroding Constitutional rights, as I’ve said, all constitutional rights can, and always have been dating back to the 18th Century, regulated, no right anywhere is absolute, if they were, we’d have anarchy
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guns do? really

Do baseball bats kill people?

Does a rope kill people?
 
leaningright said:
Let me clarify. I always hear we are so much more violent or that we have so many more gun deaths (and it’s true) than other “civilized” nations. It has always been my thought that if we want to have gun deaths at a rate of, say, Australia, then we have to have gun laws like they have in Australia. If we want to have as few deaths, by rate, as the UK, then we’re going to have to have laws like the UK.

My point being that the only way for the gun opposition to get what they want is to confiscate, register, regulate, price the opportunity for gun ownership out of the reach of the common man and essentially have no private gun ownership in this country…which obviously I disagree with.

And notice I purposely used the word “curtail” because even those nations with all their efforts still have a degree of gun violence. It is not eliminated even there.

No, to get to the levels the anti-gun crowd want to get to the have to make our country like those that they reference in almost every conversation of this sort. I try to get them to be honest and admit that that’s really their goal.
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Homicides take other forms than by gun as well. It's a special pleading fallacy to only discuss gun homicides.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You're free to believe "masks don't work" but walls do, Sybil, because that's just part of you being you. :rofl2:

You're also free to post your fantasies disproving the facts I posted.
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Sybil isn't here, dude. I can't talk to your hallucination.

Masks do not stop a virus. Paradox M.
Mandated vaccines are unconstitutional. Paradox V.
 
Dutch Uncle said:
You should practice that in the mirror first before you look silly saying it.

"No one is free if they have to live in fear of nuclear annihilation" or "The Israelis have never been free because they live in fear of constant attack by the fucking Muslims". See what I mean, Vern?

BTW, how come only Legion and Lionfish love to call you "anchovies"? Is there a backstory to that or simple-minded trolling on their part?
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How would any one worry about nuclear annihilation since when if it occurs it will be over before they know it, we are getting back up to the "cars kill more," "fire back," etc., deflections from previously

First off cause they, along with the multiple other pseudonyms, are the same person, "copy and paste," and he thinks it is his way of backing out of an exchange when he has little to offer and saving face
 
Celticguy said:
fix the gun violence in cities and we will be the envy of the world.

clearly you have no ideawhere the violence is happening and why and with what sort of weapons.
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No one does when we don’t know precisely the numbers on guns, how many were shot and how they were shot, only the ignorant proceed in the dark claiming they know the way
 
volsrock said:
Access to guns was way more easy in 1985...no Gun Free Zones or computer checks etc etc...I bought an AR-15 in 1987, filled out one yellow paper that went to the sheriff that's it...think it had 7 yes no questions on it, as long as I answered yes I got the gun

The thing is PEOPLE HAVE CHANGED since 1985! kids grow up on crazy meds..and some think Lia Thomas is really a girl...INSANE FUCKING WORLD
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There are a lot more guns out there now than in 1985, and when one can buy a gun on the regular Internet it can't get any easier
 
Celticguy said:
or you could look at facts and see where the pro=blems lie.
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How many times does it have to be explained to you?

Crime, homicide statistics, local communities provide to the FBI and CDC are completely voluntary, and estimates are that as many as forty percent never get forwarded. We do not even know the full extent of gun violence in America and from what we do know it is off the charts and inane
 
SmarterthanYou said:
yes, we know you hate freedom. it scares you. you need daddy gov to make you feel safer.
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With the having to resort to the "freedom" cliché you pretty much confirmed the fact that you just can't accept the truth, regulating guns is not eliminating a constitutional right, all constitutional rights can, are, and have always been, regulated, guns are no different, even Scalia confirmed it in his majority opinion in Heller
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Tens of thousands of people die every single day. Why are you upset over the minuscule odds of a mentally ill white boy killing you when there are many other preventable ways to die? Seems odd to me.
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Yeah. especially when he is mascaraing kids in schools, seniors praying in churches, individuals shopping for groceries, unassuming young adults attending a concert, patriotic Americans celebrating July 4th, etc., etc., etc., the list goes on and on and on, numbers escalating by the year
 
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