Gun Registration Fails...So Sorry...LOL

[Billy the Great Khan]

Acknowldgement that the bill was not a registration bill would have been sufficient.

I never said it was. Do you wish me to acknowledge other claims I've never made? I've never said the moon is made of chocolate.

 

[Bonestorm]

Don't forget that Obama tries to appease people by sticking them in Gitmo too.

Actually, I don't think that Obama has transported any new prisoners to GITMO since taking office. I could be worng but I doubt it.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

In slightly unrelated news, the valent fight for freedom by Captain America RAND PAUL continues today, this time over CISPA. Be sure to make it known, dedicated freedom fighters, that you support him and his fight by calling your congressmen today.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Actually, I don't think that Obama has transported any new prisoners to GITMO since taking office. I could be worng but I doubt it.

I seem to recall he has, but I may be wrong as well.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Geez. I remember arguing that the people in Gitmo should be brought to trial here in the US and rabid righties freaked out. "These terrorists aren't entitled to the American justice system, we can't pollute our courts with this terrorist scum, if we tried them here al-Qaeda would bomb the crap out of the courthouse, blah blah blah." You know as well as I do that conservatives don't want those people tried, they want them exterminated.

and do you ever see me advocating that? I'm critical of that policy as well. the constitution is not designed to restrict the people, it's designed to restrict the government.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

A statement based on emotion if ever I heard one.

you're daft.

 

[christiefan915]

One statement based on emotion vs ALL your statements based on the same?

"ALL my statements, etc." is an emotional opinion.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Oh excuse me, I thought the point was finding specific language in Manchin-Toomey about registration, not philosophizing about govt. adherence.

we can either accept reality that the government breaks the law and uses it against us, or we can ignore reality and argue about the letter of the law.

 

[christiefan915]

Without registration, how would it be enforced? Like I said, people would either backdate their bills o sale, use other mediums of exchange so it wouldn't be a sale (Trades, for example, aren't sales), or just say fuck it and ignore the law completely.

Once more. I wasn't arguing along with you and SP, I was simply providing a reference to the language in the bill.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

"ALL my statements, etc." is an emotional opinion.

No, it's a statement of fact. One that can be both quantified and verified. Gun control in general is nothing but an emotional response, as there is no evidence to support it.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

It wasn't an argument it was a question. You already said (paraphrasing) that every govt. on earth is poised to screw over its citizens, so how do you propose to get freedom?

the founders have shown us how. It's up to you not to handicap us to keep it.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

Once more. I wasn't arguing along with you and SP, I was simply providing a reference to the language in the bill.

And my point was that it would be used, down the road, as the grounds for registration.

 

[Cancel 2016.2]

Acknowldgement that the bill was not a registration bill would have been sufficient.

Why don't you go chastise Lorax? He was the one that brought registration into this to begin with.

 

[christiefan915]

lol... so Bush had them captured and put in Gitmo. Obama simply drone bombs them and anything around them. Then you come on here telling everyone how it is conservatives that wish to exterminate them? Um... ok.

You guys have some nerve complaining about my arguments. I wasn't talking about Obama and drones and whatever other thing you want to blame on liberals. I agreed with STY that those being held in Gitmo should get their day in court. And that when Obama wanted to transfer them to the US for trial, rabid righties freaked out.

So what is it, SF? Keep them in Gitmo forever or give them their day in court? And if it's the second option, how do you propose to implement it?

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

You guys have some nerve complaining about my arguments. I wasn't talking about Obama and drones and whatever other thing you want to blame on liberals. I agreed with STY that those being held in Gitmo should get their day in court. And that when Obama wanted to transfer them to the US for trial, rabid righties freaked out.

So what is it, SF? Keep them in Gitmo forever or give them their day in court? And if it's the second option, how do you propose to implement it?

How about just letting them go home?

 

[christiefan915]

No, it's a statement of fact. One that can be both quantified and verified. Gun control in general is nothing but an emotional response, as there is no evidence to support it.

"Gun control in general is nothing but an emotional response, as there is no evidence to support it."

Your opinion only, whether you call it coldly logical or emotional.

 

[christiefan915]

And my point was that it would be used, down the road, as the grounds for registration.

Then take it up with SP. I've been down that road already, disagreed then and disagree now.

 

[christiefan915]

you're daft.

A statement based on emotion.

 

[Billy the Great Khan]

"Gun control in general is nothing but an emotional response, as there is no evidence to support it."

Your opinion only, whether you call it coldly logical or emotional.

No, once again, statement of fact, based on the vast body of evidence that has been created in the 20 or so years of my life.

 

[Bonestorm]

Why don't you go chastise Lorax? He was the one that brought registration into this to begin with.

Actually, the author of the OP brought registration in to begin with in an apparent effort to mislead. Read the thread title.