Gun question.

[Sirthinksalot]

$100 says that if someone put one in your ass, you'd be screaming you'd been shot by a "high caliber" round.

The wound tracks trump words alone. Graphic: https://webpath.med.utah.edu/TUTORIAL/GUNS/GUNINJ.html

^As Truth Detector would say, stuck on moron^

 

[Dutch Uncle]

As Truth Detector would say, stuck on moron

You two go well together.

Words are nice, but results are better. A 5.56mm makes about the same size hole as a .22 going in but leaves a much bigger cavity and hole upon leaving. The fact you are arguing differently is interesting.

 

[Mr.Badguy]

The way it's marketed.

 

[Walt]

What makes the AR-15 so lethal?

A. It is semiautomatic.
B. It is high caliber.
C. Has a large capacity clip.
D. Your answer.

Not really sure what you mean by "high caliber". The AR-15 has smaller caliber, with higher speeds. Most guns are semi-automatic these days.

The AR-15 was designed as a military rifle. It has a high rate of sustained, accurate fire. They say that the AK-47 is the best gun if you want to kill everyone else in a room. Well, the AR-15/M-16 is really good if you want to kill almost everyone else in a room, while sparing one or two specific ones.

I would argue that 9mm stacked magazine pistols are more lethal in America. They are more easily carried. You have to know that you plan to go on a killing spree to carry an AR-15.

 

[Walt]

AR's have clips?

Detachable magazines are colloquially known as clips. So a large capacity magazine could be called a "large capacity clip."

 

[Walt]

You two go well together.

Words are nice, but results are better. A 5.56mm makes about the same size hole as a .22 going in but leaves a much bigger cavity and hole upon leaving. The fact you are arguing differently is interesting.

It is high velocity and long, so it tumbles after entering. It leaves a bigger cavity than a .45 would. So it is a smaller caliber, but still a serious weapon.

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Not really sure what you mean by "high caliber". The AR-15 has smaller caliber, with higher speeds. Most guns are semi-automatic these days.

The AR-15 was designed as a military rifle. It has a high rate of sustained, accurate fire. They say that the AK-47 is the best gun if you want to kill everyone else in a room. Well, the AR-15/M-16 is really good if you want to kill almost everyone else in a room, while sparing one or two specific ones.

I would argue that 9mm stacked magazine pistols are more lethal in America. They are more easily carried. You have to know that you plan to go on a killing spree to carry an AR-15.

Have you ever seen the damage a 223 round does to a human? Believe me the M16 is much more lethal than the AK47.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/662...dard U.S. military rifle,compared to the M-16.

 

[Walt]

Have you ever seen the damage a 223 round does to a human? Believe me the M16 is much more lethal than the AK47.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/662...dard U.S. military rifle,compared to the M-16.

I can believe that. But also, the M16 is more accurate than the AK-47. So you can spare people more easily with the M16.

The things that make the AK-47 amazing is how cheap and durable it is. The M16 you have to keep very clean, the AK-47 was demonstrated after pouring a handful of sand into. If I had to arm an army of third world peasants, I would go with the AK-47.

 

[volsrock]

D. The person firing it

BINGO

"Guns Don't Kill People, People Kill People"


Thanks for admitting that!

 

[archives]

What makes the AR-15 so lethal?

A. It is semiautomatic.
B. It is high caliber.
C. Has a large capacity clip.
D. Your answer.

Who cares, it is, and has no other purpose other than to kill as many as possible as fast as it can in the less amount of time, unless one lives in Somali, no logical reason why it is needed outside of military purposes

 

[LV426]

"Guns Don't Kill People, People Kill People"

Then why do you want to give people guns?

 

[Eagle_Eye]

Who cares, it is, and has no other purpose other than to kill as many as possible as fast as it can in the less amount of time, unless one lives in Somali, no logical reason why it is needed outside of military purposes

Typical anti gun rant. All guns have a sole function. And that is to throw a projectile when fired. It is the user who determines if it is meant to kill or not.
Yes the primary reason for a gun, is to kill, be it food or a threat to your safety. There are sick bad people in this world who use guns for evil but they are a very small portion of gun owners.

 

[Life is Golden]

What makes the AR-15 so lethal?

A. It is semiautomatic.
B. It is high caliber.
C. Has a large capacity clip.
D. Your answer.

D. It's no more lethal than many handguns other than being a "big skeery gun." lol

 

[Geeko Sportivo]

An AR-15 does not qualify as high caliber, by any standard. The bullet is barely larger than a 22 ffs. Was this a trick question?

Yes, but the AR 45 rifles are just as available today as the AR 15! Some people refuse to call them AR 45's and still call them 45 caliber AR 15's !

When you go into a gun store today, and ask to see an AR-15, they will ask you what Chamber size?

.204 Ruger
.223 Remington
.22 Nosler
.224 Valkyrie
.25-45 Sharps
6.5 Grendel
6.8 SPC
.300 Blackout
.300 Ham’r
.30 Remington AR
.350 Legend
.450 Bushmaster

Just' sayin!

 

[Dutch Uncle]

It is high velocity and long, so it tumbles after entering. It leaves a bigger cavity than a .45 would. So it is a smaller caliber, but still a serious weapon.

It has a lot of velocity behind it, hence the F = MA formula. Tumbling would allow a greater transfer of force to the target before exiting, akin to soft-point or hollow-point bullets.

The Geneva Convention requires all bullets be FMJ; full metal jacket. An unstable bullet upon impact would be a work-around. This explains the problems with tumbling through the air vs. upon impact: https://guntradition.com/223-tumble/

Not sure about the 5.56 vs. the .45 at close range. A long range, the .45 hits the ground. LOL

The ballistics, including muzzle velocities:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56×45mm_NATO

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_ACP

5.56 is about 3000 ft/s vs. the .45 of about 1000 ft/s.

 

[archives]

Typical anti gun rant. All guns have a sole function. And that is to throw a projectile when fired. It is the user who determines if it is meant to kill or not.
Yes the primary reason for a gun, is to kill, be it food or a threat to your safety. There are sick bad people in this world who use guns for evil but they are a very small portion of gun owners.

We’re not talking guns here, rather a specific weapon designed to kill as many as possible in the shortest amount of time, there is no logical reason why one not in the military should have one, especially when they are so easily accessible, even one on a terror watch list can legal obtain one
And Babe Ruth couldn’t have hit all those Home Runs without a bat

 

[Dutch Uncle]

We’re not talking guns here, rather a specific weapon designed to kill as many as possible in the shortest amount of time, there is no logical reason why one not in the military should have one, especially when they are so easily accessible, even one on a terror watch list can legal obtain one
And Babe Ruth couldn’t have hit all those Home Runs without a bat

Anti-gun/gun ban rant noted.

When We, the People, empower our own government to decide which rights we have based upon "need", then we are truly fucked in the long run.

However, if we do decide to go down that road, then I support an IQ, sanity and education test requirement for voting. Voters should be qualified.

Same for running for office.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

What makes the AR-15 so lethal?

A. It is semiautomatic.
B. It is high caliber.
C. Has a large capacity clip.
D. Your answer.

The AR-15 in .223 is not "high caliber." It is a small often cited as "subcaliber" round based off the highly accurate .222 Remington round. It does not have a "large capacity clip." It has a magazine that holds multiple rounds. The .223 also has poor penetration and lacks longer range accuracy due to the lightness of the bullet.

This is a clip of .223 ammunition

This is a magazine of .223 ammunition that fits on an AR-15

What makes ANY gun lethal for the most part is a person that knows how to use it properly and fire it accurately.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

This is a 10-round magazine British Enfield SMLE, a rifle that first saw military service in 1895. It is bolt action. In the hands of someone who is practiced with it, you can easily fire 20 aimed rounds a minute from one, possibly as many as 30.

It isn't the weapon that matters. It is who is operating it that does.

Practiced, you can fire 10 rounds in 10 seconds, reload in 10 seconds, and repeat the process.

 

[Into the Night]

Since "all of the above" is not an option, I'll go with B. F = MA

FWIW, deer hunting with the .223 is illegal in some areas because it's better at wounding deer than killing them. It's why I prefer the AK; the 7.62x39 is a better hunting round due to F = MA.

WRONG. It's the same bullet as a .22, dumbass.