Gun Monkey Madness!

[T. A. Gardner]

We are a nation created from the colonialization/imperialism of other countries ... laying waste to the native population while using a century or so of institutionalized slave labor to "build this country". There is NO WAY to transition to some similar type of gov't as based in Europe/South America/Asia as we do NOT have their history of "same-ness" in population and culture.

Actually, slave labor built almost nothing in the US before the practice was ended. If anything, the practice of slavery retarded growth of business and industry in the South rather than enhanced it. The same is true in Mexico where the similar Hacienda system was in place, throughout the Caribbean, and in S. America, like Brazil, where it was practiced.

 

[NiftyNiblick]

Try selling your screed to the surviving victims and/or the families of mass shootings for the last what, 30 years. Or for that matter, the same for victims of criminal (i.e., gangs) gun violence where the guns were easily obtained via an Iron Pipeline. Explain to them that they have "liberal paranoia" regarding the gun controversy. I suggest you do so from a fast moving car.

One can debate whether it's the "biggest" problem our nation faces, but it sure as hell is in the top five.

And it's not a case of "reverence" for our Constitutional checks and balances....it's a desire for our congressional representatives to actually make the damned things work for all Americans. Hence the OP.

Just because you're not feeling the heat doesn't mean you can blow off what others feel .... especially when we all (technically) pay the same entry fee to have things work better (aka taxes).

I don't mean to blow off what others feel.
I'm merely admitting that I don't seem to feel it nearly as much,
particularly while we have no national health service,
unaffordable education,
and anti-worker "right-to-work" laws.

I'm more curious as to your opinion on the constitution being amendable anymore.
It takes a level of consensus that I don't believe we'll ever see in our remaining lifetimes.

As for guns, we're obviously a socially regressive nation,
many Americans don't want to be governed,
and asking them to give up a uniquely American birthright--
the right to bear arms--
is a hard sell.

I have several firearms,
not to mention a concealed carry permit,
and I haven't used them for decades.
If the government is willing to give me market value,
which is a lot,
I'll gladly let them have them.

 

[ThatOwlWoman]

Once again, Jon Stewart plainly speaks truth to power regarding this country's never-ending nonsense on gun ownership and liberties. As it stands now, the MAGA GOP has a proposal out for making the purchase of gun "supressors" (aka silencers) more accessible (if not totally legal) to the general public. There's also a "reciprocity" act on the table that would allow any yahoo in a lax gun law state to bring his weapon along their travels to any other state .... sort of an "old West" type of thing to an extent.

Now of course the mantra is that more "good guys with guns" will save the day and reduce crime ... especially with all these criminal illegal aliens running amok unchecked throughout the country (sarcasm). Hmm, Jon Stewart takes a look at this:

www.youtube.com/shorts/c_OTcpFtfQA

www.youtube.com/shorts/wVu9UPBcwZU

I don't know why anyone needs or should have an AR unless they are a military or law enforcement person. Why on Earth should anyone need a silencer/suppressor? Isn't the whole idea of that to be able to not draw attention to yourself when you're firing your weapon? As in making it harder for people to escape when you're committing a mass murder event?

 

[NiftyNiblick]

I don't know why anyone needs or should have an AR unless they are a military or law enforcement person.

Neither do I.

If only that were the one single prevalent mystery as to why humans have self-destructive opinions.

As an animal lover, I wish that I were a vegetarian,
but I'm not;

I'm a meat eater who won't do his own wetwork.

As a meat eater,
I have no right to criticize meat eaters who will do their own wetwork.

I can't favor the prohibition of sporting arms,
and a sporting arm is also sufficient to defend your home.

An AR is an OFFENSIVE weapon,
so if you think that you need one,
you, at least at the subconscious level,
are prepared to render malfeasance.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

I don't know why anyone needs or should have an AR unless they are a military or law enforcement person. Why on Earth should anyone need a silencer/suppressor? Isn't the whole idea of that to be able to not draw attention to yourself when you're firing your weapon? As in making it harder for people to escape when you're committing a mass murder event?

there have been several discussions about 'needing' ARs. I'm still left wondering how anyone with a minimum level of historical knowledge would not understand the necessity of, not just ARs, but all automatic weapons.

as was previously stated, suppressors are not 'silent' that allows people to avoid drawing attention, but to protect ones hearing. Real life is not like the movies where firearms are silent. you can still hear them fire, they are just not as loud