Grow a brain and don't wear a mask

Do face masks really reduce coronavirus spread? Experts have mixed answers.

Two studies come to different conclusions.
https://www.livescience.com/are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronavirus-spread.html

. The bottom line, experts say, is that masks might help keep people with COVID-19 from unknowingly passing along the virus. But the evidence for the efficacy of surgical or homemade masks is limited, and masks aren't the most important protection against the coronavirus.
^ I'm in agreement.
 
Countries that closed down , mandated masks and social distancing have smothered Corona. They have very few cases and the ones thay have are manageable.
Due to righty thinking, if you can call it that, rightys like trump are pushing no masks and social distancing. Fuck the hospitals, nurses, doctors, health organizations, statisticians, accumulated evidence and international Epidemiologists. Trump knows better. You guys know better. You can cite some outliers. That is all you need to convince yourselves. The mass of knowledge is on science not righty beliefs. You rightys are the reason we have a third of all the corona cases and deaths on the planet. And you don't get smarter. You just keep scrounging up someone to say masks don't work and we can ignore the Pandemic and go on.
 
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I just think the effectiveness of masks is marginal at best. But if the city passes a law saying I have to wear bells on my shoes I'll wear bells on my shoes. :dunno:

But your thinking isn't supported by science. That's the point. Studies on the effectiveness of masks in stopping this particular virus aren't available in peer reviewed journals, but their effectiveness in spreading viruses has been scientifically established. An expert consensus view holds by far the most weight with me. It may be difficult to quantify, but this isn't a binary choice (i.e. they work or they don't). R0 needs to get below 1. Masks help drive that number down.
 
That is total, complete, utter bullshit. Facebook fodder. It does not happen. You are a liar. So is every other Trumptard that repeats the lie.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/corona...0200713-xk3aueospjef7dffzazn4zm5ky-story.html

Yeah....read the spin, "IF....give me a freaking break......IFFFFFFFFFFFF? If an individual provided their information (personal information implied by the text)......IT IS LIKELY.....give be another freaking break....IT IS LIKELY? ......they were also tested." -- LEFT WING SPIN from THE SUN SENTINEL (a rag that is famous for its yellow journalism much like the national enquirer, owned and operated by Tribune Publishing out of Shitcago...also known for their TABLOIDS). That my friends is supposed to be FACT CHECKING.........via what? Subjective Bullshit journalism that offers no proof or evidence that is required to debunk anything? There is not even a hint of any PRIMA FACIE evidence provided that would debunk the cooked books of the leftists that want to hyperinflate the C19 numbers.

Think logically: C19 is a novel virus in the same vial strain as the common cold, this type of virus does not like humidity or heat (the reason that the seasonal flu goes away every summer). Yet we are supposed to believe that the state of Fla., (the most humid and hottest state in the union during the summer months) is the EPI-CENTER of the WU FLU 2? Again......give me a freaking break......strange that the numbers are not being inflated in the COLD northern BLUE states where mobs averaging in the 1000s, wearing no masks, or bound to any social distancing.....have a drastic DECLINE in cases, its all Southern Red States....Fla., Texas, Ga., the Carolinas.......:bigthink:

How stupid do you have to be to believe this illogical SPIN?:readit::dunno:

SUBJECTIVE LANGUAGE: Is a term used to describe OPINIONATED language, not based upon facts but suggested results. Compare that to Objective Journalism: Fact based reporting needing no editorial narrative, reporting that simply presents what is observed...allowing the reader to determine if truth is demonstrated.

Take President Trump's advice: Wear a mask.......its supposed to protect your from the KUNG FLU. Then apply logic: No need to have mail in voting......just wear your mask to the polling place like you do Walmart or the Bar to have a drink, or not....just like you wear nothing when ya go out for a neighborhood night of looting and mayhem. Then apply the next logical link to this chain of logic: Everyone needs voter IDs because everyone is supposed to be wearing a mask. :laugh:
 
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Anti maskers might be dumber than birthers. Of course you are probably both.
 
I bet she’s a QAnon believer.

One of my wifes friends, who is a total attention whore, claimed SHE HAD SEEN THE LETTERS. Of course I told my wife that her friend was absolutely full of shit, you can't get a positive test result without a test, and you don't provide your information until you are being tested. This is typical right wing bullshit. You read a made up story on Facebook, then you claim to the subject of that made up story. I've known LIG for years, she's always been totally full of shit. A very common troll. Florida is a disaster right now, and God forbid we get a hurricane in South Florida, or anywhere for that matter. DeSantis has screwed the pooch. After being wrong about almost everything, why would anyone take his advice about sending their kids to school?
 
Ted Noel is a retired anesthesiologist and nutty conspiracy theorist. ROTFLMFAO!!!!

Let's see the credentials of the guy that he claims is a TV Doctor:

"Dr. Fauci was appointed director of NIAID in 1984. He oversees an extensive portfolio of basic and applied research to prevent, diagnose, and treat established infectious diseases such as HIV/AIDS, respiratory infections, diarrheal diseases, tuberculosis and malaria as well as emerging diseases such as Ebola and Zika. NIAID also supports research on transplantation and immune-related illnesses, including autoimmune disorders, asthma and allergies. The NIAID budget for fiscal year 2020 is an estimated $5.9 billion.

Dr. Fauci has advised six presidents on HIV/AIDS and many other domestic and global health issues. He was one of the principal architects of the President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), a program that has saved millions of lives throughout the developing world.

Dr. Fauci also is the longtime chief of the Laboratory of Immunoregulation. He has made many contributions to basic and clinical research on the pathogenesis and treatment of immune-mediated and infectious diseases. He helped pioneer the field of human immunoregulation by making important basic scientific observations that underpin the current understanding of the regulation of the human immune response. In addition, Dr. Fauci is widely recognized for delineating the precise ways that immunosuppressive agents modulate the human immune response. He developed effective therapies for formerly fatal inflammatory and immune-mediated diseases such as polyarteritis nodosa, granulomatosis with polyangiitis (formerly Wegener's granulomatosis), and lymphomatoid granulomatosis. A 1985 Stanford University Arthritis Center Survey of the American Rheumatism Association membership ranked Dr. Fauci’s work on the treatment of polyarteritis nodosa and granulomatosis with polyangiitis among the most important advances in patient management in rheumatology over the previous 20 years.

Dr. Fauci has made seminal contributions to the understanding of how HIV destroys the body's defenses leading to its susceptibility to deadly infections. Further, he has been instrumental in developing treatments that enable people with HIV to live long and active lives. He continues to devote much of his research to the immunopathogenic mechanisms of HIV infection and the scope of the body's immune responses to HIV.

In a 2019 analysis of Google Scholar citations, Dr. Fauci ranked as the 41st most highly cited researcher of all time. According to the Web of Science, he ranked 8th out of more than 2.2 million authors in the field of immunology by total citation count between 1980 and January 2019.​

Dr. Fauci has delivered major lectures all over the world and is the recipient of numerous prestigious awards, including the Presidential Medal of Freedom (the highest honor given to a civilian by the President of the United States), the National Medal of Science, the George M. Kober Medal of the Association of American Physicians, the Mary Woodard Lasker Award for Public Service, the Albany Medical Center Prize in Medicine and Biomedical Research, the Robert Koch Gold Medal, the Prince Mahidol Award, and the Canada Gairdner Global Health Award. He also has received 45 honorary doctoral degrees from universities in the United States and abroad.

Dr. Fauci is a member of the National Academy of Sciences, the National Academy of Medicine, the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, and the American Philosophical Society, as well as other professional societies including the American College of Physicians, the American Society for Clinical Investigation, the Association of American Physicians, the Infectious Diseases Society of America, the American Association of Immunologists, and the American Academy of Allergy, Asthma & Immunology. He serves on the editorial boards of many scientific journals; as an editor of Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine; and as author, coauthor, or editor of more than 1,300 scientific publications, including several textbooks."

Who to believe.... who to believe.....

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This is a version of the "ad vericundium" fallacy commonly used by low-IQ "debaters" who can't back up their argument. It is the invalid logic of claiming "It doesn't MATTER that Fauci has been proven wrong and contradicted himself at every turn, he's been to all these status symbol places, therefore his arguments MUST be right."

A Kindergartner could comprehend how flawed your logic is here. :laugh:
 
In Florida, people get positive test results....and have never taken a test.

Motor cycle accidents can be categorized as "Covid" deaths.

Garbage is an understatement for the "Covid" data in this state.

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Truth: The only thing that keeps mankind from going extinct is his ability to adapt and overcome the countless bacteria and viruses that he encounters on a daily basis.......this is accomplished via the fact that the human bodies have a built in immune system that produces anti-bodies whenever some pathogen is introduced into the human body.

Go ahead.......be a dumb ass and wear a mask, compromise your immune system, weaken it due to the fact that you are no longer capable of fighting off any new pathogen that you may contract as you live out your life in nature.

Think about it......reason with critical thinking not knee jerk reactions of acting like sheep. When you wear a mask....it may or may not protect you from the pathogen dejour. Ask yourself this..with a compromised immune system.......what will you do when the powers that be release the next KUNG FLU? You will become infected and die because your body is not producing the required anti-bodies to fight off even the most simple of pathogens. In reality this new virus C19 is nothing but a souped up cold virus .....its NOVAL because its new, it came from the lab to create a virus that no human has seen.....meaning, no human has any anti-body protection, but can quickly develop herd immunity because this virus is from the same viral family as all other natural cold and flu viruses. They don't want you creating herd immunity.

These one world order evil nutjobs have been attempting to design a plan for decades to reduce the human population. Go ahead.....be sheep being lead to the slaughter house.

You say there is no one that evil in the world? What do you call killing off over 50 thousand senior citizens, such as was accomplished via BLUE STATE LEADERSHIP by contaminating our senior citizen nursing homes with the Wu Flu? I call it planned eugenics.

Eugenics......a plan engaged by the Socialist Nazis in the 1930s.....and further introduced by Margaret Sanger (socialist left wing nutjub) and planned parenthood.....who had a plan to reduce the Black Population in this nation through Abortion on Demand. Today's reality: 35% of all abortions kill Black Babies, while the Black Population represents but 13% of the total US population. The same figures are comparable with those who are enslaved and often die in our modern day slave institutions called the penal system (look at who brought us legislation that specifically targets the black population.......Potato Head Joe).

Again.....reason with logic, not emotion. Even the media, the propaganda arm of these one world order evil assholes have introduced evidence that this virus is targeting BLACKS more than any other race of peoples on earth. Think about it........you can't see the forest for the trees, there are none so blind as those who refuse to see.......THE TRUTH. Socialists have always despised the black population thinking they are no more than animals to be used as labor. Today as Mr. Lincoln once said when asked what he thinks slavery is....."Slavery is when YOU work, and I eat......." Its the theft of someone's labor.


You don't think they had a plan to bring us a planned pandemic.........look at the first projections by Media Idle Anthony Fauci....who was HOPING to kill around 2 million US Citizens with the 1st wave because the Citizens had no anti-body protection from a new lab designed Virus (C19).........Fauci first said he projects 2,000,000 people will die........Fauci first said Masks are useless don't wear them. Why you ask? Because he did not want any possible protection from this new virus.....Fauci first suggested that all healthy people be sequestered and remained locked down (the first time in world history where the healthy is mandated to be locked down....not just those most at risk....our seniors (even today the average age for deaths from C19.....is over 70 years old). Why lock down the healthy? To stop the healthy from creating anti-bodies that might combat this 1st planned wave from China......HERD IMMUNITY.

Then Fauci flip flops.........NOW EVERYONE MUST WEAR PROTECTIVE MASKS....why? As pointed out......wearing masks even if they do work will do nothing but weaken your immune system (and not allow any anti-body protection to be created in the body)....preparing you for the next designer lab virus coming from China.

The plan for decades by these evil assholes has been to reduce the human population. What you are watching unfold with the riots and murders? Its nothing but a cover story......in order to keep everyone's eyes from looking in the correct direction, with every day that passes, the idiots that wear masks 24/7 are doing nothing but preparing themselves for the next left wing slaughter.....with no herd immunity whatsoever....because no anti-bodies have been created to combat this latest designed virus.

Eugenics: reducing the population so that only Select lives remain. As Darwin declared, "Survival of the fittest". Its NAZISM all over again. :bigthink:

Ask Bill Gates if he will be the 1st in line to take a supposed vaccine....the 1st to have a chip planted under his skin. Hell no! He is ELITE, he is wealthy.....he wants to rid the world of all the dead weight.

I used to do clinical research at this place, which involved pulling people off the streets and offering them not much money money to test, for example, pre-operative anti-bacterial disinfectant on their bodies. Our subjects almost always ended up being retirees, who had the kind of time required for the studies, and homeless people, who needed the money. The problem we faced was that the elderly people always had the most compromised immune systems, while the homeless people always had the most resilient immune systems...because they were exposed to the maximum amount of viruses and bacteria. Our data were often generated from two extremes, so we had to account for that.

But the point is, it drives home the importance of doing the OPPOSITE of what our repeatedly discredited "experts" are telling us we should be doing. Herd immunity is needed. Go about your lives, get the virus, and move on, like you do with every other virus. The only exceptions are those who are immuno-compromised.
 
That is total, complete, utter bullshit. Facebook fodder. It does not happen. You are a liar. So is every other Trumptard that repeats the lie.

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/corona...0200713-xk3aueospjef7dffzazn4zm5ky-story.html

That's funny, because all the EVIDENCE shows that YOU'RE the one pushing "total, complete, utter bullshit." Flordia, New York, Pennsylvania...states EVERYWHERE are falsely reporting cases. For your bullshit claim to be true, De Blasio himself would literally have to be in on this conspiracy.

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So which is it? Are you just a gullible chump being misled by dishonest partisan "fact-checkers" or are you being deliberately dishonest? :awesome:

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Might be time to crack open your narrow mind and venture beyond your trash sources. ;)
 
Because... math and stuff. If R0 is less than one, cases will diminish. If it is greater than one, cases will increase. Masks lower the R0. There is no guarantee that wearing masks will reduce the R0 to less than one. You aren't about to become a science denier, are you?

But, Democrats need to riot and burn down society over a lie. THEY didn't have to wear masks. And neither does Fauci or any of the elitist Washington snobs forcing this on people...so does "math and stuff" work differently for them?

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I bet she’s a QAnon believer.

This message is hidden because CFM is on your ignore list.

Anti maskers might be dumber than birthers. Of course you are probably both.

Yes, the people who think you can be born homosexual but get to choose whatever made-up gender you feel like...the people who've been made 40+ wildly inaccurate global warming doomsday predictions...the people who've been proven wrong at every turn on COVID...THEY are the true champions of science, and anyone who notices all the gaping holes in this bullshit must be a conspiracy theorist.

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