Grok On men's right to know paternity

I prefer the term, "manholes."
that works too.

:thup:
The fact you two hate your mothers, wives and daughters so much you want them relegated to second-class status is sad. It's also further proof of the MAGAt War on Women. First you seek to take away their right to their own bodies and now you are seeking to strip them of the same rights you hold for yourselves. This is unAmerican. People around you should take note and, when the time comes, do something to remove your pain.
 
The fact you two hate your mothers, wives and daughters so much you want them relegated to second-class status is sad. It's also further proof of the MAGAt War on Women. First you seek to take away their right to their own bodies and now you are seeking to strip them of the same rights you hold for yourselves. This is unAmerican. People around you should take note and, when the time comes, do something to remove your pain.
What's "unamerican" is not being fair and equal. Where in all that does the man get a fair and equal say in any of it?
 
The fact you two hate your mothers, wives and daughters so much you want them relegated to second-class status is sad. It's also further proof of the MAGAt War on Women. First you seek to take away their right to their own bodies and now you are seeking to strip them of the same rights you hold for yourselves. This is unAmerican. People around you should take note and, when the time comes, do something to remove your pain.
what second class status?

women voting guarantees a woman will never win.

cat fight! and all that.
 
What's "unamerican" is not being fair and equal. Where in all that does the man get a fair and equal say in any of it?
QED on men in unhappy relationships.

All Americans deserve equal rights and equal opportunities. They don't have a right to equal successes. I support a merit-based society like the US military. I don't support a system where the "merit" is measured by sex or skin-tone.
 
QED on men in unhappy relationships.

All Americans deserve equal rights and equal opportunities. They don't have a right to equal successes. I support a merit-based society like the US military. I don't support a system where the "merit" is measured by sex or skin-tone.
Who get to decide if one is meritorious, maybe it is that black women, but because of the color of her skin and her gender, she is overlooked. That is what DEI is actually about. People seem to forget why it was implemented in the first place.

You’ve never heard the words, well, we would, but you’re a women…I have, it sucks.
 
Who get to decide if one is meritorious, maybe it is that black women, but because of the color of her skin and her gender, she is overlooked. That is what DEI is actually about. People seem to forget why it was implemented in the first place.

You’ve never heard the words, well, we would, but you’re a women…I have, it sucks.
In the military it goes up through the chain of command so several people are looking at both the person being review and the reviewers. In the military, as it should be in our government, the goal is to do what is best for the service, not individual egos. It's not perfect and bullshit happens as with any human activity, but that's the goal. Overall, it works.

As We, the People, can see in our own national government, the system is being perverted by a cult of personality where the goal isn't what's best for the nation but what is best for one old and very vain man.

No doubt it sucks to be overlooked based upon sex, skin-tone or some other factor unrelated to merit.
 
The fact you two hate your mothers, wives and daughters so much you want them relegated to second-class status is sad. It's also further proof of the MAGAt War on Women. First you seek to take away their right to their own bodies and now you are seeking to strip them of the same rights you hold for yourselves. This is unAmerican. People around you should take note and, when the time comes, do something to remove your pain.
you're confused. It's the Democrats who have a war on women. All the evidence you need is their incessant wailing about transphobics and letting men participate in womens sports.
 
Who get to decide if one is meritorious, maybe it is that black women, but because of the color of her skin and her gender, she is overlooked. That is what DEI is actually about. People seem to forget why it was implemented in the first place.

You’ve never heard the words, well, we would, but you’re a women…I have, it sucks.
totally false and ridiculous position. If women actually made less money than men, companies would hire all women and save money. They don't do that though.............why would that be?
 
you're confused. It's the Democrats who have a war on women. All the evidence you need is their incessant wailing about transphobics and letting men participate in womens sports.
All you are doing is proving that both the Democrats and the Party of Trump are engaged in a war on women but it's a nice use of Whataboutism. :thup:

MAGAt rule #5 When losing an argument, use whataboutism

Meanwhile, at the Libertarian Party: https://lp.org/platform-page/

1.4 Personal Relationships

Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration, or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, promote, license, or restrict personal relationships, regardless of the number of participants. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships. Until such time as the government stops its illegitimate practice of marriage licensing, such licenses must be granted to all consenting adults who apply.
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All you are doing is proving that both the Democrats and the Party of Trump are engaged in a war on women but it's a nice use of Whataboutism. :thup:

MAGAt rule #5 When losing an argument, use whataboutism

Meanwhile, at the Libertarian Party: https://lp.org/platform-page/

1.4 Personal Relationships

Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration, or military service laws. Government does not have the authority to define, promote, license, or restrict personal relationships, regardless of the number of participants. Consenting adults should be free to choose their own sexual practices and personal relationships. Until such time as the government stops its illegitimate practice of marriage licensing, such licenses must be granted to all consenting adults who apply.
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nearly all democrats have a hard time accepting that they are engaging in a war on women.

your whataboutism bullshit is false equivalence AND the 1.4 has zero to do with what I posted about.

do you ever stay on topic?
 
nearly all democrats have a hard time accepting that they are engaging in a war on women.

your whataboutism bullshit is false equivalence AND the 1.4 has zero to do with what I posted about.

do you ever stay on topic?
Fuck them.

LOL Nice dance.

Yes.
 
chris Christie.

believe it ....or not......

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Nope, guess again. Widen your search. It's not that hard.
 
when I read your posts, all I can think of is that either you or someone close to you got screwed over by a 'dishonest' man, and now you believe that all/most men are evil. All/Most men now have to take the blame for someones experience that they're not responsible for.
Sorry, try again. I have never started a thread about paternity issues, nor have I ever started a thread bitching about how men treat women.
 
the man does not get to walk away scot free. That's a delusional fantasy you've concocted.
Where I work there are a couple of men who have their wages garnished for child support because they refused to obey court orders. These men are divorced, too, and the children are from the marriage. So they tried to get away with not paying until the court system finally caught up. What kind of parent would do that to the kids? Note that I said "parent," not man.
 
nobody is doing that, despite your insistence that they are.

Child Support Statistics by Gender​


Do child support numbers vary depending on the gender of the custodial and noncustodial parents? Who is more likely to pay child support? What is the role of mothers and fathers when it comes to child support? Here are 10 interesting facts.

  1. Male vs. female: Eighty percent of custodial parents are women. This is a decrease from 84 percent in 1994
  2. Outstanding child support: The majority of outstanding child support is owed by fathers who have a low income.
  3. Mothers who don’t receive child support: More than 40 percent of mothers who don’t receive child support are survivors of physical or emotional abuse.
  4. Custodial rates and marriage: Custodial fathers are more likely to have been divorced Custodial mothers are more likely to have never been wed before.
  5. Women are more likely to get child support orders: Fifty-one percent of mothers were due child support versus 41 percent of custodial fathers.
  6. Custodial mothers are more likely to have multiple children: Custodial mothers are more likely to have two or more children living with them than custodial fathers.
  7. Poverty by gender: Kids living with a custodial mother were more likely (23.7 percent) to live in poverty than kids living with custodial fathers (11.2 percent). The rate is even higher for mothers with two children (29.2 percent) or three children (50.8 percent).
  8. Employment by gender: Over half of custodial mothers had full-time jobs in 2017. Over 21 percent didn’t have a job. Over 74 percent of custodial fathers had full-time jobs versus 9.2 percent who didn’t work at all.
  9. Those who received no child support: 38.4 percent of custodial fathers did not receive any child support payments versus 28.7 percent of custodial mothers.
  10. Custodial fathers earn more: The median household income in 2017 for custodial fathers who were due child support was over $70,000. The median household income for custodial mothers who were due child support was $52,000.
 
Where I work there are a couple of men who have their wages garnished for child support because they refused to obey court orders. These men are divorced, too, and the children are from the marriage. So they tried to get away with not paying until the court system finally caught up. What kind of parent would do that to the kids? Note that I said "parent," not man.


Anecdotal evidence with zero attribution?

:nonono:
 

Child Support Statistics by Gender​


Do child support numbers vary depending on the gender of the custodial and noncustodial parents? Who is more likely to pay child support? What is the role of mothers and fathers when it comes to child support? Here are 10 interesting facts.

  1. Male vs. female: Eighty percent of custodial parents are women. This is a decrease from 84 percent in 1994
  2. Outstanding child support: The majority of outstanding child support is owed by fathers who have a low income.
  3. Mothers who don’t receive child support: More than 40 percent of mothers who don’t receive child support are survivors of physical or emotional abuse.
  4. Custodial rates and marriage: Custodial fathers are more likely to have been divorced Custodial mothers are more likely to have never been wed before.
  5. Women are more likely to get child support orders: Fifty-one percent of mothers were due child support versus 41 percent of custodial fathers.
  6. Custodial mothers are more likely to have multiple children: Custodial mothers are more likely to have two or more children living with them than custodial fathers.
  7. Poverty by gender: Kids living with a custodial mother were more likely (23.7 percent) to live in poverty than kids living with custodial fathers (11.2 percent). The rate is even higher for mothers with two children (29.2 percent) or three children (50.8 percent).
  8. Employment by gender: Over half of custodial mothers had full-time jobs in 2017. Over 21 percent didn’t have a job. Over 74 percent of custodial fathers had full-time jobs versus 9.2 percent who didn’t work at all.
  9. Those who received no child support: 38.4 percent of custodial fathers did not receive any child support payments versus 28.7 percent of custodial mothers.
  10. Custodial fathers earn more: The median household income in 2017 for custodial fathers who were due child support was over $70,000. The median household income for custodial mothers who were due child support was $52,000.


Poors shouldn't spawn, obviously.
 
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