Greg Abbott Silent as Electric Power Grid Operator Urges Texans To Turn Off Appliance

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Wind is piddle power. You cannot produce electricity from it unless the wind is flowing within a limited range of speeds and temperatures are within tolerance ranges. You cannot use wind generators in freezing conditions or when wind speed is outside of the acceptable range (common in the Dakotas, for example). The reason power is so cheap in ND is because of all the coal plants the place has.

Clearly you know nothing about wind turbines and how they work in ND, SD, and Iowa. They work just fine in freezing conditions.
Every year since 2000 Iowa has produce more Gwh of electricity from wind in December and January than they did in June and July.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Iowa
But feel free to argue that you know more than the electrical utilities in Iowa. It's what you do.

If coal is so cheap then why does West Virginia have electric prices that are higher than Iowa.
Iowa gets 57% of its power from wind
West Virginia gets 88%of its power from coal

Shouldn't the power in West Virginia be significantly lower than Iowa if coal is so cheap?

https://paylesspower.com/blog/electric-rates-by-state/
https://www.nei.org/resources/statistics/state-electricity-generation-fuel-shares

 

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Actually, the Titanic's lights went out before it went down. The actual different is that Titanic has sufficient generating capacity. The SDTC doesn't.

You're a real party pooper, do you know that?

 

[ExpressLane]

States that produce more of their electricity from wind than Texas does...

SD - 57% from wind - $0.1135 https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=SD
ND - 42% from wind - $0.1003 (The cheapest power of any state.)
OK - 41% from wind - $0.1121 https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=OK
NM - 30% from wind, - $0.1344

CO - 27% from wind - 5% from solar - $0.1361 https://www.eia.gov/state/analysis.php?sid=CO
KS - 43% from wind
MN -21%
ME - 24%
NE - 23%

I don't recall any of those states having an unstable grid subject to outages.

Arkansa, Oregon, Idaho, Louisiana, Missouri, North Dakota, Montana, Nebraska, Washington, Wyoming all have cheaper electric rates than Oklahoma.https://paylesspower.com/blog/electric-rates-by-state/ Texas a larger percentage of wind generation than Minnesota, Michigan and Nebraska Texas has the largest Wind generation capacity of any state and about 3 1/2 times more capacity than Oklahoma and about 4 1/2 times larger than Kansas . https://neo.ne.gov/programs/stats/inf/205.htm

Oklahoma has far more wind than it can use so it sells off the excess. So when it isn't producing much wind it can still meet the needs but that has also driven the price up to Oklahomans from what it was.

Texas power grid operator calls for conservation again as wind generation falters

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Arkansa, Oregon, Idaho, Louisiana, Missouri, North Dakota, Montana, Nebraska, Washington, Wyoming all have cheaper electric rates than Oklahoma.https://paylesspower.com/blog/electric-rates-by-state/ Texas a larger percentage of wind generation than Minnesota, Michigan and Nebraska Texas has the largest Wind generation capacity of any state and about 3 1/2 times more capacity than Oklahoma and about 4 1/2 times larger than Kansas . https://neo.ne.gov/programs/stats/inf/205.htm

Oklahoma has far more wind than it can use so it sells off the excess. So when it isn't producing much wind it can still meet the needs but that has also driven the price up to Oklahomans from what it was.

Texas power grid operator calls for conservation again as wind generation falters

Too bad Texas isn't hooked up to the national grid. They could be getting power from Oklahoma and Kansas.
North Dakota and South Dakota get more of their power from wind than Oklahoma and ND has the lowest rates in the country. Oklahoma has lower rates than Texas according to your source and some of the lowest in the country. The problem Texas seems to have is they don't know how to plan for anything like cold or heat. It's almost like they have never heard of those things.

 

[ExpressLane]

Clearly you know nothing about wind turbines and how they work in ND, SD, and Iowa. They work just fine in freezing conditions.
Every year since 2000 Iowa has produce more Gwh of electricity from wind in December and January than they did in June and July.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Iowa
But feel free to argue that you know more than the electrical utilities in Iowa. It's what you do.

If coal is so cheap then why does West Virginia have electric prices that are higher than Iowa.
Iowa gets 57% of its power from wind
West Virginia gets 88%of its power from coal

Shouldn't the power in West Virginia be significantly lower than Iowa if coal is so cheap?

https://paylesspower.com/blog/electric-rates-by-state/
https://www.nei.org/resources/statistics/state-electricity-generation-fuel-shares

How would SD grid perform on a 107 degree day like in Texas today and is predicted for the next two days? Texas power plants are built NOT ENCLOSED so they can radiate heat on hot days. Power plants in SD are built in enclosures. We also don't heat wind turbine blades like they do in South Dakota. The winter storm that made the Texas grid fail was longer colder and wider spread than ANY storm in recorded Texas weather history. And yes it caused blackouts in Arkansa in Louisiana also. So heated Turbine blades weren't needed previously so our grid was built without them . If SD has a heat wave like is commonplace in Texas it will stress their grid and probably cause failure from the heat. TODAY when almost everyone in Texas was running AC the power from wind generation dropped to 4,397 MW during peak usage hours down from a potential of 33 MW of installed capacitance. We sure could have used those extra 29 MW of power that Wind did not supply during peak usage hours. We have had 25 new records for electric demand since May and the power is still on. Hopefully the wind will start blowing and do its job .

If wind is so cheap why do multiple states have lower rates than Oklahoma?

 

[ExpressLane]

Too bad Texas isn't hooked up to the national grid. They could be getting power from Oklahoma and Kansas.
North Dakota and South Dakota get more of their power from wind than Oklahoma and ND has the lowest rates in the country. Oklahoma has lower rates than Texas according to your source and some of the lowest in the country. The problem Texas seems to have is they don't know how to plan for anything like cold or heat. It's almost like they have never heard of those things.

Part of the reason Oklahoma's rate is low is because natural gas is plentiful and cheap in Oklahoma making their natural gas generation cheaper than many states.

Oklahoma rates are less than 1 cent lower than Texas. I just showed you why wind generation is making the Texas grid less reliable. We need a couple of more nukes. Carbon free and aren't built in China and produce MUCH more reliable energy.

 

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Those states that Poor Dick eulogised about almost invariably have small populations. ND, SD and WY all have populations below one million, it is lunacy to attempt to compare them with the likes of Texas, California and Germany.

ND is a huge fracking state but concentrates on oil whilst flaring off natural gas. This wasted resource could have generated over 30,000 GWh of electrical energy, an amount equal to three-quarters of the state's total generation, that is truly crazy! Why they even use wind turbines is beyond me? They have far more gas and coal than they know what to do with, probably subsidies and rents to landowners explains that.

In fact it's truly insane that any state uses wind for grid electricity, it has been stated many times that wind displaces other forms of energy rather than replaces them. It still needs another form of energy to provide a baseload. Over half of ND electricity comes from lignite, indeed its deposits are the world's largest and provide 57% of the state's electricity.

 

[ExpressLane]

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Those states that Poor Dick eulogised about almost invariably have small populations. ND, SD and WY all have populations below one million, it is lunacy to attempt to compare them with the likes of Texas, California and Germany.

ND is a huge fracking state but concentrates on oil whilst flaring off natural gas. This wasted resource could have generated over 30,000 GWh of electrical energy, an amount equal to three-quarters of the state's total generation, that is truly crazy! Why they even use wind turbines is beyond me? They have far more gas and coal than they know what to do with, probably subsidies and rents to landowners explains that.

In fact it's truly insane that any state uses wind for grid electricity, it has been stated many times that wind displaces other forms of energy rather than replaces them. It still needs another form of energy to provide a baseload. Over half of ND electricity comes from lignite, indeed its deposits are the world's largest and provide 57% of the state's electricity.

I was wondering about that. Thanks for the information. That is truly crazy.

 

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If this dumb-ass Texas governor had spent taxpayers money on upgrading the Texas power grid instead of border wall/security, which was no more than grand standing, you not have this power grid problem?!! Vote him out!

Texas Republican Governor Greg Abbott is once again presiding over another energy crisis in the state that produces more natural gas than any other in the nation, but he hasn’t said a word. As temperatures rise the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (ERCOT), which is in charge of Texas’ electricity – its power grid – is urging customers to turn off appliances, turn up their thermostats, and conserve energy.

In the winter of 2021 hundreds of Texans died because the grid failed. It couldn’t stand the cold temperatures.
There is now a possible danger of blackouts because, it seems, it can’t stand hot temperatures. On Monday The Dallas Morning News offered advice on “

https://twitter.com/x/status/1546518428894339072

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KLTV reports “ERCOT is asking Texans and Texas businesses to voluntarily conserve electricity, Monday, July 11 between 2-8 p.m. ERCOT also issued a Watch for a projected reserve capacity shortage from 2-8 p.m.” The ABC affiliate also says ERCOT is urging Texans to postpone running major appliances and turn their thermostats up to save energy.

http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread...-operator-urges-texans-to-turn-off-appliances

Vote toxic red is a vote to go straight to another burning hellhole.

 

[ExpressLane]

Vote toxic red is a vote to go straight to another burning hellhole.

Stupid post is stupid.

 

[gemini104104]

Stupid post is stupid.

Speaking of stupid, bitch please as in what has a repuke done for you lately other than serving the interests of the devil and both external and the internal enemy from within with their bold, brazen and high treason at being taxpayer pilfering slaves of the devil?

G.O.P. Declares Jan. 6 Attack ‘Legitimate Political Discourse’
The Republican National Committee voted to censure Representatives Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for participating in the inquiry into the deadly riot at the Capitol."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/us/politics/republicans-jan-6-cheney-censure.html


THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS NOW THE PARTY OF JANUARY 6

Rather than distancing themselves from an attack on the democratic process, Republicans one year later are still clinging to the lies that fueled the Capitol riot and lionizing the insurrectionists.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/01/the-republican-party-is-now-the-party-of-january-6

It appears you and your gutter type are in favor of going to hell with tRump and his repuke mob but I don't think the same holds true with them who honor their God given will to resist evil in order to achieve success.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

How would SD grid perform on a 107 degree day like in Texas today and is predicted for the next two days? Texas power plants are built NOT ENCLOSED so they can radiate heat on hot days. Power plants in SD are built in enclosures. We also don't heat wind turbine blades like they do in South Dakota. The winter storm that made the Texas grid fail was longer colder and wider spread than ANY storm in recorded Texas weather history. And yes it caused blackouts in Arkansa in Louisiana also. So heated Turbine blades weren't needed previously so our grid was built without them . If SD has a heat wave like is commonplace in Texas it will stress their grid and probably cause failure from the heat. TODAY when almost everyone in Texas was running AC the power from wind generation dropped to 4,397 MW during peak usage hours down from a potential of 33 MW of installed capacitance. We sure could have used those extra 29 MW of power that Wind did not supply during peak usage hours. We have had 25 new records for electric demand since May and the power is still on. Hopefully the wind will start blowing and do its job .

If wind is so cheap why do multiple states have lower rates than Oklahoma?

SD grid would perform just fine. When SD hits over 100, they don't lose power. If they aren't producing enough, they buy it from other states. If the wind isn't blowing in SD, it is likely to be blowing in Iowa and Nebraska.

If wind is so expensive then why does ND have the lowest rates in the country when they get over 40% of their electricity from wind? Wind is not as expensive as ItK and Primavera claim it is. It is actually one of the cheapest production sources. Weather predictions have gotten good enough, that a producer should be able to forecast production and demand a week in advance. I guess Texans don't believe in the fake weather forecasts so they have to deal with rolling black outs.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

Part of the reason Oklahoma's rate is low is because natural gas is plentiful and cheap in Oklahoma making their natural gas generation cheaper than many states.

Oklahoma rates are less than 1 cent lower than Texas. I just showed you why wind generation is making the Texas grid less reliable. We need a couple of more nukes. Carbon free and aren't built in China and produce MUCH more reliable energy.

Texans seem to be too stupid to look at weather forecasts. Planning would require that they have the ability to look at the future and have plans for what could happen. You plan for the worst. Texans can't seem to understand that. It's on them for being so stupid.

 

[ExpressLane]

Texans seem to be too stupid to look at weather forecasts. Planning would require that they have the ability to look at the future and have plans for what could happen. You plan for the worst. Texans can't seem to understand that. It's on them for being so stupid.

So we are supposed to look more than 150 years in advance for a ice storm who's intensitive has never before happen? And that makes sense to you?????

 

[ExpressLane]

SD grid would perform just fine. When SD hits over 100, they don't lose power. If they aren't producing enough, they buy it from other states. If the wind isn't blowing in SD, it is likely to be blowing in Iowa and Nebraska.

If wind is so expensive then why does ND have the lowest rates in the country when they get over 40% of their electricity from wind? Wind is not as expensive as ItK and Primavera claim it is. It is actually one of the cheapest production sources. Weather predictions have gotten good enough, that a producer should be able to forecast production and demand a week in advance. I guess Texans don't believe in the fake weather forecasts so they have to deal with rolling black outs.

The highest number of 100 degrees days in South Dakota in the last hundred years occurred in 1934 and was 10 days. The first 100 degree day in Texas was on MAY 7th this year and August is typically our hottest month . I just saw the ten day forecast and it's over 100 degrees for all ten days. My wife is pissed because her new sod in the back yard has all burned up. I hope the wind blows because we need the FULL 33MW but we all know it won't perform to its full installed capacitance like a fossil generation can. South Dakota's grid would fry under the Texas heat.

 

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So we are supposed to look more than 150 years in advance for a ice storm who's intensitive has never before happen? And that makes sense to you?????

Poor Dick is a full-on dickhead.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

So we are supposed to look more than 150 years in advance for a ice storm who's intensitive has never before happen? And that makes sense to you?????

Texas has had wind turbines for 150 years?

But seriously. Do you know about climate change? Do you understand that it makes weather more extreme? It seems Texans want to pretend it isn't happening. Failure to plan means failure. Texas seems to be failing a lot.

 

[ExpressLane]

Texas has had wind turbines for 150 years?

But seriously. Do you know about climate change? Do you understand that it makes weather more extreme? It seems Texans want to pretend it isn't happening. Failure to plan means failure. Texas seems to be failing a lot.

California is having problems including blackouts with their Federally regulated grid. Their grid is so poorly maintained that they have to shut down sections of it to keep from burning more people up.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

The highest number of 100 degrees days in South Dakota in the last hundred years occurred in 1934 and was 10 days. The first 100 degree day in Texas was on MAY 7th this year and August is typically our hottest month . I just saw the ten day forecast and it's over 100 degrees for all ten days. My wife is pissed because her new sod in the back yard has all burned up. I hope the wind blows because we need the FULL 33MW but we all know it won't perform to its full installed capacitance like a fossil generation can. South Dakota's grid would fry under the Texas heat.

LOL. I guess you don't know that SD is more than just Sioux Falls.
No, the SD grid wouldn't fry under the Texas heat. It would perform just fine. They have the capacity to produce more than enough electricity and if they can't they can buy from other states. It's called planning. Something Texans should try some time.
I didn't realize that wind turbines were required to water your garden.... Oh.. that's right.. more failure to plan by a Texan.

 

[Poor Richard Saunders]

California is having problems including blackouts with their Federally regulated grid. Their grid is so poorly maintained that they have to shut down sections of it to keep from burning more people up.

California has a grid problem. Yes. Doesn't mean wind power is the most expensive source of electricity. it means that electric companies in California failed to do the proper planning. Just like the electric companies in Texas failed to do planning.