Great job Hillary...

Superfreak said:
Not to worry. I am pretty sure that once Iran gets the bomb, Obama and Hillary will stamp their feet in protest once or twice. THAT will show Iran.
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Well, they did just get a deal on sanctions with the other members of the security council.

Short of military action, what else would you propose?
 
Onceler said:
Well, they did just get a deal on sanctions with the other members of the security council.

Short of military action, what else would you propose?
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The Iran deal with Turkey and Brazil was a gambit to attempt to sway the Russians and the Chinese from signing on to a new sanctions regime. It didn't work.

Looks like the WSJ editorial board didn't look before they leaped, and SF jumped in right after them.
 
NigelTufnel said:
The Iran deal with Turkey and Brazil was a gambit to attempt to sway the Russians and the Chinese from signing on to a new sanctions regime. It didn't work.

Looks like the WSJ editorial board didn't look before they leaped, and SF jumped in right after them.
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The only bad part about this is the lengths that he will go to in order to spin his error, and how long the thread will now go before any detractors for his spin just get tired and move on.
 
warhawk propaganda, we can't bomb every country that tries to arm itself. Though Superfreak would like to send someone else to do it.
 
Onceler said:
Well, they did just get a deal on sanctions with the other members of the security council.

Short of military action, what else would you propose?
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Apparently I (and the author of the piece) missed the sanctions. Do you have a link? Because from what I have seen thus far, it appears as Iran is circumventing the UN quite nicely.
 
maybe the 4th round will work...doubt it

onceler and nigel are silly to be touting this as a success at this stage...oh well, anything to praise their one and only obama
 
Yurt said:
maybe the 4th round will work...doubt it

onceler and nigel are silly to be touting this as a success at this stage...oh well, anything to praise their one and only obama
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It is success. Getting Russia and China on board with the new sanctions regime is a diplomatic success, particularly considering the Iranians tried to undercut those efforts by reaching the deal with Turkey and Brazil.
 
NigelTufnel said:
I've told you before about taking the word of the WSJ editorial board and how more often than not you'll end up looking like an ass. You never listen.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/19/world/19sanctions.html?src=mv
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ok smartass...

1) The sanctions 'deal' was announced TODAY, the article was likely written last night for submission to the site. Thus the author could not have known.

2) I will wait to see what the 'sanctions' agreed to are and whether they are effective... as we all know the last three rounds have been unsuccessful.
 
NigelTufnel said:
It is success. Getting Russia and China on board with the new sanctions regime is a diplomatic success, particularly considering the Iranians tried to undercut those efforts by reaching the deal with Turkey and Brazil.
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I would agree with the above. Getting Russia and China on board is indeed a success...
 
Let's hear it from Yurt & Superfreak.

What are your suggestions, beyond getting Russia & China on board with sanctions?
 
Onceler said:
Let's hear it from Yurt & Superfreak.

What are your suggestions, beyond getting Russia & China on board with sanctions?
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At the time the author wrote the article, they were not on board. So it is hardly surprising they assumed Russia and China would use the deal as an excuse not to jump on board with more sanctions. The fact that Russia and China are apparently going to support more sanctions is indeed a win for Clinton and Obama. (provided of course they actually follow through)
 
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