Grand Rapids police release video of officer fatally shooting Patrick Lyoya

[Monad Portal]

He posed a threat to the cop!!!!

so if a cop gets in a scrap with anyone for any reason, he can shoot that person?

THis was a nonviolent person fleeing.

Might have been a bad kill.

 

[moon]

Murder. Life in jail for the killer cops.

 

[Monad Portal]

so if he shot him in the back without a scuffle, would it have been a bad kill?

 

[ExpressLane]

listen to your masters..............do exactly as they say and you might live.

Fight them in court not the streets.

 

[ExpressLane]

so if a cop gets in a scrap with anyone for any reason, he can shoot that person?

THis was a nonviolent person fleeing.

Might have been a bad kill.

When he reached for the cop's taser he became a real threat to the cops. Taze the cop then you can control his gun.

 

[Monad Portal]

this was a traffic stop ending in a death. the victim was not armed.

police officers can use lethal force under two circumstances: when they have probable cause to believe a suspect poses an imminent threat of serious bodily harm and when a dangerous suspect of a crime involving the infliction of serious physical injury is attempting to flee. In Tennessee v. Garner (1985), the Supreme Court held that the Fourth Amendment prohibits the use deadly force against a non-violent, unarmed felon who is fleeing.

https://www.talksonlaw.com/briefs/wh...e-deadly-force

 

[ExpressLane]

this was a traffic stop ending in a death. the victim was not armed.

police officers can use lethal force under two circumstances: when they have probable cause to believe a suspect poses an imminent threat of serious bodily harm and when a dangerous suspect of a crime involving the infliction of serious physical injury is attempting to flee. In Tennessee v. Garner (1985), the Supreme Court held that the Fourth Amendment prohibits the use deadly force against a non-violent, unarmed felon who is fleeing.

https://www.talksonlaw.com/briefs/wh...e-deadly-force

Then don't try to take their Tazer because you become an imminent threat and may get shot.

 

[Matt Dillon]

Battery on a Law Enforcement Officer is a violent felony so..he was feeing a violent felony.

 

[volsrock]

Why cant blacks follow orders...like stay in the car and stop?

 

[volsrock]

What sort of “genius” try’s to take a cop’s weapon away from him?


Resisted arrest- check

Fight with a cop- check

Grabbed the cops taser- check

Wouldn’t drop the taser when ordered - check

 

[Matt Dillon]

so if a cop gets in a scrap with anyone for any reason, he can shoot that person?

THis was a nonviolent person fleeing.

Might have been a bad kill.

Pretty much yes. It's not good, but that's how it is.

 

[volsrock]

this was a traffic stop ending in a death. the victim was not armed.

police officers can use lethal force under two circumstances: when they have probable cause to believe a suspect poses an imminent threat of serious bodily harm and when a dangerous suspect of a crime involving the infliction of serious physical injury is attempting to flee. In Tennessee v. Garner (1985), the Supreme Court held that the Fourth Amendment prohibits the use deadly force against a non-violent, unarmed felon who is fleeing.

https://www.talksonlaw.com/briefs/wh...e-deadly-force

A lawbreaker, caught while escaping, remains uncooperative, fights back, tries to disarm the cop...and the cop’s reaction of self-defense is “over the top”.??

 

[Monad Portal]

A lawbreaker, caught while escaping, remains uncooperative, fights back, tries to disarm the cop...and the cop’s reaction of self-defense is “over the top”.??

maybe. for a traffic stop.

does all resisting arrest warrant lethal force?

 

[Monad Portal]

Pretty much yes. It's not good, but that's how it is.

I Really believe the law says otherwise.

does all resisting arresting warrant lethal force?

 

[Monad Portal]

Then don't try to take their Tazer because you become an imminent threat and may get shot.

i didn't know he took the tazer.

that changes things a little is suppose.

:sheepish:

 

[Monad Portal]

What sort of “genius” try’s to take a cop’s weapon away from him?


Resisted arrest- check

Fight with a cop- check

Grabbed the cops taser- check

Wouldn’t drop the taser when ordered - check

taking the tazer does change it for me. i didn't notice that before.

 

[Matt Dillon]

I Really believe the law says otherwise.

does all resisting arresting warrant lethal force?

No. Once you hit a cop, though....

or go for their club, gun, or taser...that's kicking it up a notch.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

what about this?

police officers can use lethal force under two circumstances: when they have probable cause to believe a suspect poses an imminent threat of serious bodily harm and when a dangerous suspect of a crime involving the infliction of serious physical injury is attempting to flee. In Tennessee v. Garner (1985), the Supreme Court held that the Fourth Amendment prohibits the use deadly force against a non-violent, unarmed felon who is fleeing.

https://www.talksonlaw.com/briefs/wh...e-deadly-force




are you saying because they were in a scrap on the ground it became an officer safety issue?

would it have been different if it were a smaller person?

the attempt to grab the officers weapon gives the government agent(s) justification to use deadly force in defense of themselves or others

 

[Monad Portal]

No. Once you hit a cop, though....

or go for their club, gun, or taser...that's kicking it up a notch.

maybe so.

 

[SmarterthanYou]

Fight them in court not the streets.

relying on the government to protect you from the government is stupidity at it's finest