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wiseones2cents

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OK people. Lets discuss government regulation. The republicans are against it, though the very foundation of Capitalism is for the government to keep greed in check. Government regulation.

How does it do that? It collects taxes from the wealthy, so a significant portion of the income goes to the Gov to be used for the benefit of the public(and those that are left out of the capitalist loop).

Just so you know? It is impossible to employ everybody in capitalism, mostly due to technology replacing human labor.

Anyways, when companies are exempted from paying their taxes? The government coffers are heavily reduced and so are social programs.......

The argument of the capitalist Corps is that the money will be used to expand and create more jobs, though why not give another a chance at the American dream? To open up competition? Why put all your eggs in one basket?

We have seen the result. When these large companies get so big and outgrow demand? They have to either layoff thousands of employees or shut down. The govs response? Bail them out. Is that capitalism? This is after all the corporate welfare they have been receiving(tax payers money).

The larger corporations have a much bigger advantage to smaller companies because they have larger expenses and thus larger write offs. The small businessman cannot compete, stifling competition.

And the fact that these big corps weasel their way out of paying their share of the debt and social programs? The small businessmen and the middle class are left with the bulk of the burden.

That is why so many small businessmen are burdened with high taxes. That's not capitalism.
 
What is happening now is the Corps have reached the boundries of their expantion. There is no where left to expand to in America, there is no more room for growth. Yet they still receive these tax breaks, excemptions, ect.... And what are they doing with those tax exemptions now, they are using the money(American tax payers dollars) to expand to other countries. Basically exporting America's wealth. See how capitalism and greed go hand in hand? They are abandoning America for greener pastures(cheaper labour and higher profit margins). At the expense of American jobs. And using Americans own money to do so. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot!
 
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Republicans should move to Somalia, where there is no government regulation.
 
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Republicans should move to Somalia, where there is no government regulation.
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Basically if the gov doesn't tax corps adequately, it risks the Corps becoming more wealthier then them, and when that happens, they can start influencing government more(Lobbying). And thus corruption. Look at the level of corporate corruption in the last few decades.

Sure capitalists will always bribe politicians, though this allows corps to have even more money to bribe politicians.

They shouldn't worry about creating jobs. If the demand is there, give someone else a chance of the American dream to fulfill the demand.
 
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If the GOP keeps cutting taxes for the wealthy and big business, that day won't be far away.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
if he had any more empty space and hot air in his 'open mind', he'd already be in the asylum.
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Agreed, but at least when someone points out a fact he is incorrect about, if he researched it instead of denying it and typing HAHAHAHAHA or LOL,
some people might still be willing to play.
 
SmarterThanYou said:
if he had any more empty space and hot air in his 'open mind', he'd already be in the asylum.
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I at least attempted to have a debate, You idiots are just limited to criticism without and real substance. Maybe you can start with what you don't agree with my OP and why. Or will that be too much strain on your two brain cells?
 
Return of Dune said:
Agreed, but at least when someone points out a fact he is incorrect about, if he researched it instead of denying it and typing HAHAHAHAHA or LOL,
some people might still be willing to play.
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When the facts that are mentioned cannot be supported, that is when I have a good laugh! Facts are facts when you can prove it. I can say the moon is made out of cheese. That's a fact, when in reality, it is not.
 
wiseones2cents said:
I at least attempted to have a debate, You idiots are just limited to criticism without and real substance. Maybe you can start with what you don't agree with my OP and why. Or will that be too much strain on your two brain cells?
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it's not possible to agree or disagree when your entire post is just wrong.
 
wiseones2cents said:
PROVE IT! Your opinion backed without facts is just that. Your opinion. I believe I am spot on!
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Yet you, who demands proof in capital letters, NEVER offer any proof.
Those few of us who have bothered to debate you have provided abundances of proof,
via links, films, etc., only to have you glibly dismiss them, then adding insult to injury,
throw in a bunch of LOLs and HAHAHAs.
Even if you were correct in your assumptions, which you generaly are not, such behavior
would not engender participation by others in your "debates".

Seriously, look at what is going on. You get no support from anyone, liberal, progessive, libertarian or conservative.
In your view, backed by your assertions, you are the only correct one and all the rest of us are wrong.

Do you really think a board such as this, composed primarily of intellectual heavyweights, is entirely incorrect about everything?

Your arrogance is unbounded, offensive and undeserved.
Until you achieve the slightest semblence of humility, you will likely be ignored here.

Clearly you do think, a lot, but thoughts based on incorrect facts lead only to erroneous conclusions.
Then you stand on your erroneous conclusions and MOCK the rest of us.
 
Return of Dune said:
Yet you, who demands proof in capital letters, NEVER offer any proof.
Those few of us who have bothered to debate you have provided abundances of proof,
via links, films, etc., only to have you glibly dismiss them, then adding insult to injury,
throw in a bunch of LOLs and HAHAHAs.
Even if you were correct in your assumptions, which you generaly are not, such behavior
would not engender participation by others in your "debates".

Seriously, look at what is going on. You get no support from anyone, liberal, progessive, libertarian or conservative.
In your view, backed by your assertions, you are the only correct one and all the rest of us are wrong.

Do you really think a board such as this, composed primarily of intellectual heavyweights, is entirely incorrect about everything?

That the rich have not been paying their fair share? millionaires and billionaires have publicly said they agree!

What do you want me to prove?

Your arrogance is unbounded, offensive and undeserved.
Until you achieve the slightest semblence of humility, you will likely be ignored here.

Clearly you do think, a lot, but thoughts based on incorrect facts lead only to erroneous conclusions.
Then you stand on your erroneous conclusions and MOCK the rest of us.
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I've cut the mis-information you call proof to pieces. It doesn't hold water therefore cannot be considered proof nor facts. It is only spin to fool the naive like you!

What proof do you want? That the government gives corporate welfare to corps? Everyone knows this!

I didn't start with the name calling. You idiots did. What? You don't like a taste of your own medicine? More of that bullshit American double standard?

Most of these people have been indoctrinated with so much spin they wouldn't know the truth if it hit them in the face.

I believe Winston Churchill said it best.

Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened.
Sir Winston Churchill
British politician (1874 - 1965)

Plus. Most of the people on here are pro-capitalist so obviously they are against what I propose.
 
wiseones2cents said:
I at least attempted to have a debate, You idiots are just limited to criticism without and real substance. Maybe you can start with what you don't agree with my OP and why. Or will that be too much strain on your two brain cells?
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When have you attempted to have a debate? You post some mindless crap which is mostly just not true, based on other shit that just isn't true, and when someone points that out to you, they get a screen full of HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...LOL...LMFAO...AHAHAHAHAHAAHA. Is THAT what your obviously retarded brain thinks is "debate?" Got news for ya bud, you're not the first hard head antagonistic know it all who doesn't care to listen and learn, and you won't be the last. People like you are a dime a dozen on the internet, it's why you keep having to change your name and re-invent yourself, it's why you have to travel around to different boards, as people just get bored with your shtick and move on.

Generally speaking, the first sentence or two that rolls out of your fingertips, indicates the level of ignorance you are at. For instance...

"Lets discuss government regulation. The republicans are against it..."

Well, no they're not, that's just a bold face lie. Republicans maybe are against EXCESSIVE regulation, but I don't know of anyone (except possibly a few libertarians) who think government shouldn't regulate ANYTHING! So we can stop right here and see, whatever is to follow is based on the foundation of a lie, an outright ignorant lie. Stuff that's based on lies is typically unreliable.

But if that's not bad enough, you then show that you are not only ignorant, but retarded as well. After you 'establish' the lie about regulations, along with a loose explanation of why you think we have regulation (which was also wrong), then you attempt to make some point about corporate taxes, as if government regulation has a goddamn thing in the world to do with corporate taxes! It's two entirely DIFFERENT things!

Then you make such a profoundly dumb remark, even the stupid people here cringe! "It is impossible to employ everybody in capitalism." As far as I know, the ONLY way to employ anyone, is through capitalism. Even if the government gives you a job building a road, it is the tax revenues of capitalism which allowed them to hire you. It's impossible to employ everybody, PERIOD! Dumbass! Some people don't want to work, you can't employ someone who doesn't want to work, can you? I guess you could ENSLAVE them and FORCE them to work under threat of death, like they have done in Communist countries... but for the most part, everyone who wants a job can have a job through capitalism, it's the only way to create adequate jobs.

In reading your little Commie rants, I find that you are very naive and stupid, simple-minded and foolish, and you seem to have convinced yourself you are smart and wise, which is the funniest part of all! ...I have literally scraped shit off the bottom of my shoe, that made more sense than you.
 
You know 2 cents worth of Stupidity is incredibly out there when Dixie and I agree, since we have NEVER AGREED about anything else.
 
Return of Dune said:
Yet you, who demands proof in capital letters, NEVER offer any proof.
Those few of us who have bothered to debate you have provided abundances of proof,
via links, films, etc., only to have you glibly dismiss them, then adding insult to injury,
throw in a bunch of LOLs and HAHAHAs.
Even if you were correct in your assumptions, which you generaly are not, such behavior
would not engender participation by others in your "debates".

Seriously, look at what is going on. You get no support from anyone, liberal, progessive, libertarian or conservative.
In your view, backed by your assertions, you are the only correct one and all the rest of us are wrong.

Do you really think a board such as this, composed primarily of intellectual heavyweights, is entirely incorrect about everything?

Your arrogance is unbounded, offensive and undeserved.
Until you achieve the slightest semblence of humility, you will likely be ignored here.

Clearly you do think, a lot, but thoughts based on incorrect facts lead only to erroneous conclusions.
Then you stand on your erroneous conclusions and MOCK the rest of us.
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Can you give us the names of the "intellectual heavyweights" on this forum?
 
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