GOP Hate for America

SmarterthanYou said:
you seem to think so, with all the hatred you spew towards anyone who you disagree with.
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Now, granted, evince isn't advocating the murder of innocent people, but, and stop me if I'm wrong here, but I'm not ENTIRELY certain that counts as "hatred."

What dictionary is it you're using, exactly?
 
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Seth who???? I guess I must have missed the email that said he was somebody of importance.
 
Stelakh said:
Yes, they were convicted.

It may come as a surprise to you, but laws work differently in different countries.

I wasn't there to hear the evidence, I don't know that they got a fair trial by OUR standards (and I'd be willing to guess they probably didn't), but they were convicted in the courts of the country they were in.

Now, I'm not in favor of goat humping (or any other animal, for that matter - unless it's among other goats because what one species gets up to with itself is none of my business), but I'm actually fond of bacon, myself. It may surprise you to know, however, that if you are referring to Iranians, who are overwhelmingly Muslim, bacon is forbidden to them.

So you're not only avoiding trying to make any point beyond "there's a difference between hostages and prisoners," you're also showing your ignorance.

Thanks for helping me out. But really? I'm sure you can tell by now that I don't actually need your help. :)
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First let me apologize for my rude comment, it was wrong. Then they walked across the border they would have been convicted of espionage. Of course they were not given fair trials unlike the Iranians who were here, by the way I beleive they did not go back to Iran. I know one was convicted of disobeying the trade sanctions. I would also venture to guess those held here were treated much better.
 
Obama could even be more successful with prisoner swaps......if he took maybe 5 or 10 gitmo detainees I'll bet could swap them for,......oh....maybe a large popcorn and a soda.....

His legacy would be set in stone forever as the best swapper the US ever had......
 
patriot66 said:
First let me apologize for my rude comment, it was wrong. Then they walked across the border they would have been convicted of espionage. Of course they were not given fair trials unlike the Iranians who were here, by the way I beleive they did not go back to Iran. I know one was convicted of disobeying the trade sanctions. I would also venture to guess those held here were treated much better.
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Apology accepted, thank you. That is frankly the most refreshing thing I have seen anyone do on this forum to date.

Were they given fair trials? Probably not. Are they subject to American laws in Iran? Definitely not. Are they subject to Iranian laws while in Iran? Definitely yes. Are prisoners detained here treated better than prisoners detained in other countries? It's difficult to say. Probably some better, probably some worse.

The Iranians released in this matter were all either accused or convicted of violating sanctions that were related to the Iran's nuclear program. Since those sanctions have now been lifted, it's essentially a "no harm / no foul" for them. Basically, we got back four people who would have spent decades in Iranian prisons for six people we'd have wound up releasing ANYWAY, in a deal that was in fact proposed by Iran.

And it was done without anyone having to murder anyone else.

I'd call that a win.
 
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