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Seth Meyers: GOP ‘Sh*t All Over’ President Obama’s Successful Iran Prisoner Swap


President Obama has been working for months to bring home four American prisoners held in Iran. It finally paid off with a deal that saw Iran and the United States exchange prisoners. The president showed that diplomacy instead of war is the right course of action to take.

However, that wasn’t good for the Republicans who started complaining as soon a the president announced the deal. It’s typical of Republicans to play the partisan card even when what happens is good for the country. On Late Night with Seth Meyers, Meyers said:

“Of course, a good day for Obama only lasts seven minutes before Republicans shit all over it. Which they did, because Republicans were outraged Obama traded seven Iranian prisoners to get the Americans back.”

Donald Trump was apparently upset that the US gave up seven prisoners while Iran gave up just four. Yet, clips show that Trump called it a bad deal yet also took credit for it. Meyers summed it up well. Imitating Trump’s accent, Meyers said:

“It’s a terrible deal we should be ashamed of — and not to brag, it was my idea and you should thank me for it.”

Trump also denied that he ever said the prisoners would never be released even though the video shows that he did. “Another contradiction from America’s favorite contra-dickhead,” Meyers said.

It’s typical fashion for Republicans to go after the president even when the results are good for the country.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/0...t-obamas-successful-iran-prisoner-swap-video/
 
Mr.Badguy said:
This is such a typical example of nothing ever being good enough for some people. What pray tell, would have been the best solution in your mind?
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depends on what exact effect i'm looking for. personally, on this one, i'd go for singular assassinations of high ranking people in the iranian government until they gave them up. if they killed the hostages in retaliation, i'd do a full scale strike on all their major government buildings.
 
they would hate anything Obama does



they voted against their own ideas when Obama said he agreed with them
 
patriot66 said:
Again there is a difference between the U.S Hostages and the Iraqi Prisoners
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Yes, indeed, there is.

Iranians held hostages from 1979 to 1981. They were released not in a prisoner exchange, but as part of a backdoor deal that gave weapons to the all-but-in-name enemy. These people were abducted and held solely for political purposes and never once saw the inside of a courtroom nor were they officially charged with any crime by any agency of the Iranian government. That's kind of what defined them as hostages.

Now let's flash forward to 2016.

The prisoners released by Iran are:

Jason Rezaian, arrested in 2014 for espionage, convicted in 2015. Sentence: I'm frankly not sure. Probably death that got commuted, like...

Amir Hekmati, arrested in 2011 for spying, convicted. Sentence: Death, commuted to 10 years in prison.

Saeed Abedini, arrested in 2012 for organizing home (Christian) churches.

Nosratollah Khosravi-Roodsari, damned if I know. So far, all I read about him is that there's some confusion about why he was arrested, if he was convicted and if he was sentenced.

Also, a fifth American was released from prison on the same day, but he had nothing to do with the prisoner exchange.

But thanks for making sure we know the difference between prisoners and hostages.
 
Stelakh said:
Yes, indeed, there is.

Iranians held hostages from 1979 to 1981. They were released not in a prisoner exchange, but as part of a backdoor deal that gave weapons to the all-but-in-name enemy. These people were abducted and held solely for political purposes and never once saw the inside of a courtroom nor were they officially charged with any crime by any agency of the Iranian government.

Now let's flash forward to 2016.

The prisoners released by Iran are:

Jason Rezaian, arrested in 2014 for espionage, convicted in 2015. Sentence: I'm frankly not sure. Probably death that got commuted, like...

Amir Hekmati, arrested in 2011 for spying, convicted. Sentence: Death, commuted to 10 years in prison.

Saeed Abedini, arrested in 2012 for organizing home (Christian) churches.

Nosratollah Khosravi-Roodsari, damned if I know. So far, all I read about him is that there's some confusion about why he was arrested, if he was convicted and if he was sentenced.

Also, a fifth American was released from prison on the same day, but he had nothing to do with the prisoner exchange.

But thanks for making sure we know the difference between prisoners and hostages.
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Oh my gosh he started a church, as for the rest I am sure they were "-CONVICTED" and got fair trials(not) nice to know you are in favor of the goat humping bacon lovers
 
SmarterthanYou said:
depends on what exact effect i'm looking for. personally, on this one, i'd go for singular assassinations of high ranking people in the iranian government until they gave them up. if they killed the hostages in retaliation, i'd do a full scale strike on all their major government buildings.
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If I read you right on this, here's what it looks like you're saying:

Phase I: Kill members of the government of a sovereign nation.
Phase II: That sovereign nation kills four American prisoners.
Phase III: Kill hundreds, if not thousands, of people in "full scale strike on all their major government buildings," which likely contain people just sitting at their desks with a job to do, entering data into a computer and just want to get out at 5 o'clock and go home to their wives/husbands/kids/parents/dogs, and who have absolutely no influence on the release of criminal prisoners and who are completely innocent of what you're intending to kill them for.
Phase IV: Expect the rest of the world to say, "Hey, they asked for it" and have absolutely no repercussions anywhere, from anyone, ever.

If that's your reasoned approach, I think I've spotted the flaw in your thinking.
 
Stelakh said:
If I read you right on this, here's what it looks like you're saying:

Phase I: Kill members of the government of a sovereign nation.
Phase II: That sovereign nation kills four American prisoners.
Phase III: Kill hundreds, if not thousands, of people in "full scale strike on all their major government buildings," which likely contain people just sitting at their desks with a job to do, entering data into a computer and just want to get out at 5 o'clock and go home to their wives/husbands/kids/parents/dogs, and who have absolutely no influence on the release of criminal prisoners and who are completely innocent of what you're intending to kill them for.
Phase IV: Expect the rest of the world to say, "Hey, they asked for it" and have absolutely no repercussions anywhere, from anyone, ever.

If that's your reasoned approach, I think I've spotted the flaw in your thinking.
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you work for an evil entity, you are just as culpable. no mercy. and if the rest of the world doesn't like phase IV, tough. I'd do the same if their citizens were held prisoner by an evil regime as well.
 
patriot66 said:
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Oh my gosh he started a church, as for the rest I am sure they were "-CONVICTED" and got fair trials(not) nice to know you are in favor of the goat humping bacon lovers
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Yes, they were convicted.

It may come as a surprise to you, but laws work differently in different countries.

I wasn't there to hear the evidence, I don't know that they got a fair trial by OUR standards (and I'd be willing to guess they probably didn't), but they were convicted in the courts of the country they were in.

Now, I'm not in favor of goat humping (or any other animal, for that matter - unless it's among other goats because what one species gets up to with itself is none of my business), but I'm actually fond of bacon, myself. It may surprise you to know, however, that if you are referring to Iranians, who are overwhelmingly Muslim, bacon is forbidden to them.

So you're not only avoiding trying to make any point beyond "there's a difference between hostages and prisoners," you're also showing your ignorance.

Thanks for helping me out. But really? I'm sure you can tell by now that I don't actually need your help. :)
 
SmarterthanYou said:
you work for an evil entity, you are just as culpable. no mercy. and if the rest of the world doesn't like phase IV, tough. I'd do the same if their citizens were held prisoner by an evil regime as well.
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Ah! And there's the crux of EVERYTHING. Every.Single.God.Damned.Thing.

Here's what people like you don't get, and it's so remarkably simple.

If YOU believe that they are evil and that that in turn gives you the right to attack them, then, by DEFAULT, if they believe YOU are evil, it gives THEM the right to attack YOU.

That, friends, is what we call a "vicious circle."

It's also why diplomacy should be tried first.

You know, so we can avoid the whole slaughtering-the-innocent-getting-into-a-protracted-war-that-will-cost-thousands-of-lives thing.
 
Stelakh said:
Ah! And there's the crux of EVERYTHING. Every.Single.God.Damned.Thing.

Here's what people like you don't get, and it's so remarkably simple.

If YOU believe that they are evil and that that in turn gives you the right to attack them, then, by DEFAULT, if they believe YOU are evil, it gives THEM the right to attack YOU.

That, friends, is what we call a "vicious circle."

It's also why diplomacy should be tried first.

You know, so we can avoid the whole slaughtering-the-innocent-getting-into-a-protracted-war-that-will-cost-thousands-of-lives thing.
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you, sir, are completely full of shite.
 
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