GOP Debate Tonight..

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Anybody But Obama? Not a wise way to proceed, based on historical events. The democrats took the "Anybody But Bush" approach in '04 and ended up with that loser Kerry. We allow an "Anybody But Obama" attitude to develop we could end up with someone as bad, or end up losing, both of which the nation cannot afford at this juncture. We need to demand the BEST representative of fiscal conservative principles, rather than just accept whomever the RNC is willing to hand us.

No, sorry pinhead, that's not what I am saying. Why can't you fucking comprehend what you read? Why do you have to RUN back to George W. Bush and Republican politics past, whenever something reminds you of it? Get your fucking GOP-hating head out of your ass, and understand that we MUST defeat Obama... it doesn't really matter what "kind" of conservative gets to do it, they will be markedly BETTER than 4 more years of Obama. Now, if you just want to carry your ass around on your shoulders about George W. Bush and the Neocons for the rest of your life, that's fine, you've got plenty of company, and you guys can support each other and back each other up, and slap each other on the back all you like... that won't defeat Obama in 2012.

The RNC is trying everything they can to push ROMNEY on us... or now, PERRY... the establishment Republican elites want no part of Bachmann, Santorum, Cain, or Paul. They are manipulating the media just as well as Democrats do, telling us that Romney or Perry have already won the nomination, practically... So no, shithead... I am NOT just "going along with the RNC" on this, I am vigorously campaigning for MY guy, Herman Cain, and hoping that the rest of my fellow conservatives are smarter than you are, and can SEE who the Establishment GOP is pushing, and NOT vote for them.

I read your critiques, and it fucking sounds like you want an "ideal conservative" ...meaning, a conservative who fits exactly with your particular views on conservatism, and if you don't get what you want, you'll get on your moral high horse and ride away from Election 2012... casting your vote for some idiot no-name out of 'protest' or whatever. Well, if you do that, you may as well pull the lever for 4 more years of Obama. We've got ONE chance to beat him, ONE candidate who will be able to... and by god, if you can't bring yourself to get behind them, whoever it is, then you fucking deserve 4 more years of Obamanomics!

 

[Good Luck]

Is it possible for you to converse reasonably with people who do not kiss your rosy fucking ass on every issue? One hour out of ignore, and you verify why I put your useless ass on ignore in the first place.

Yes you ARE saying "anybody but Obama"; quite literally saying ANY conservative (even a fake one?) is automatically better than Obama. You say it quite clearly:
"it doesn't really matter what "kind" of conservative gets to do it, they will be markedly BETTER than 4 more years of Obama." But first you claim that is NOT what you are saying? LOL you are so full of self contradictions, you haven't a foggy fucking clue what you are arguing. Hell, your second paragraph even agrees with what I said: that we NOT simply accept the candidates offered by the RNC, but rather DEMAND someone who TRULY represents the conservative agenda.

But, like I said, an attitude to accept any flavor conservative DURING THE PRIMARIES (sorry if that was not clear the first time, I sometimes assume people can think for themselves...) can yield either a useless pissant unable (or unwilling) to press a real conservative agenda, or pull out some brain dead loser unable to appeal to the moderate independent, in which case we end up with Obama anyway. Neither case is good for us. In short, taking the ABO appraoch like the dems took ABB in 04 is as likely to fuck us as to help us.

I don't demand the "ideal" conservative. But I do demand a REAL one. And while I will hold my nose to vote for a simpering twit if necessary to vote against Obama, BEFORE that occurs, I will demand the best from the RNC, and refuse to support IN THE PRIMARIES anyone who does not meet the requisites of a true fiscal conservative.

As for the rest of your discharge of empty-headed, self-important vitriol: FUCK YOU, you useless brain dead asshole. The only pinhead in this conversation stares at you in the mirror when you shave in the morning.

 

[Dixie - In Memoriam]

Is it possible for you to converse reasonably with people who do not kiss your rosy fucking ass on every issue? One hour out of ignore, and you verify why I put your useless ass on ignore in the first place.

I converse reasonably with reasonable people, and I don't care if you kiss my ass or agree with me or not. If you want to put me back on ignore, that's your biz, but I will always call you out on your stupidity.

Yes you ARE saying "anybody but Obama"; quite literally saying ANY conservative (even a fake one?) is automatically better than Obama. You say it quite clearly:
"it doesn't really matter what "kind" of conservative gets to do it, they will be markedly BETTER than 4 more years of Obama." But first you claim that is NOT what you are saying? LOL you are so full of self contradictions, you haven't a foggy fucking clue what you are arguing. Hell, your second paragraph even agrees with what I said: that we NOT simply accept the candidates offered by the RNC, but rather DEMAND someone who TRULY represents the conservative agenda.

No... quite LITERALLY I stated that was NOT what I said, and it ISN'T! You keep wanting to warp and twist what I said into that, because it's what you HEAR. Let me clarify... I did not say "anybody but Obama" ....I said, OBAMA MUST NOT WIN! Can you comprehend the difference in the two? Is that within your realm of critical thinking to be able to do that?

But, like I said, an attitude to accept any flavor conservative DURING THE PRIMARIES (sorry if that was not clear the first time, I sometimes assume people can think for themselves...) can yield either a useless pissant unable (or unwilling) to press a real conservative agenda, or pull out some brain dead loser unable to appeal to the moderate independent, in which case we end up with Obama anyway. Neither case is good for us. In short, taking the ABO appraoch like the dems took ABB in 04 is as likely to fuck us as to help us.

If you assume that people can think for themselves, why in the hell would you think that anyone would just settle for any flavor conservative IN THE PRIMARIES? There are 9 GOP contenders, why would someone "settle for any old flavor" when they can pick from 9 distinctly different people? It doesn't even make rational sense if people COULDN'T think for themselves, much less with you assuming they can.

And here is where I jump off your stupid train, because it's not 1996 anymore. You might THINK there wouldn't be any difference between Obama and a not-so-true conservative, but I'll be willing to bet, that even the not-so-true-conservative isn't a Socialist Marxist dedicated to fundamentally transforming us into the Socialist States of America. Ten years ago, I might have agreed with your point, but I've seen too much from this bunch in power, and I realize the abstract difference between Obama and ANY ONE OF THE 9 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES FOR THE GOP! I don't care which one you pick, they are not going to destroy America and turn us into Russia West!

I don't demand the "ideal" conservative. But I do demand a REAL one. And while I will hold my nose to vote for a simpering twit if necessary to vote against Obama, BEFORE that occurs, I will demand the best from the RNC, and refuse to support IN THE PRIMARIES anyone who does not meet the requisites of a true fiscal conservative.

Well what is a "REAL" conservative to you? Do you think it's the same as a "real conservative" to me, or Damo, or all other conservatives? I can tell you already, we all have a different opinion of what constitutes a "REAL" conservative... or a "TRUE" conservative. It is based on our personal perceptions, opinions, and views, of those who articulate our personal views well in public. You might think Ron Paul is the "perfect conservative" and I might think Ron Paul is an idiot, and Rick Santorum is the "perfect conservative" ...someone else might think we're both idiots and Mitt Romney is the "perfect conservative" ...do you get my point?

I can just about guarantee you, whoever the GOP ends up nominating, is not going to please every conservative or satisfy everyone's criteria for what makes a "good" conservative. I've listened to all of them, and there are things a like about them, and things I don't like, or that I disagree with them on... none of them are 100% "ideal" from my perspective, but I don't expect that, and neither should you or anyone else who isn't dedicated to Socialist Marxism. We've got a choice, Obama or whoever is running against Obama... now that SOUNDS (to you) like I am saying ABO... but I'm not. I am saying, get pragmatic.. get real... we HAVE to defeat Obama in 2012. That being the case, we HAVE to vote for whoever is nominated by the GOP... like it or not, ABO or not, that is a how it is.