GM's sweetheart tax deal

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GM's sweetheart tax deal

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The U.S. Treasury is giving up $14 billion in tax revenue because of a sweetheart deal it's giving General Motors.

The automaker is expected to post its first profitable year since 2004 when it reports fourth-quarter results on Thursday. But GM (GM) won't have to worry about being hit with a big tax bill because billions in previous losses will provide shelter for years to come.

That break will reduce GM's U.S. tax bill by an estimated $14 billion in the coming years, and its global taxes by close to $19 billion, according to a company filing.

Companies typically get a break on future taxes because of past losses. But in most cases they lose that tax break during bankruptcy, because the losses are offset by the "income" the company receives from shedding its debt.

The power behind GM's throne
Since the company shed $30 billion in debt during bankruptcy, it should have wiped out most of the tax break. GM even warned it expected to lose those tax breaks shortly before filing for Chapter 11 protection.

But somehow, that never happened, and the automaker was able to keep most of its tax breaks, essentially receiving a $14 billion "gift" from the government.

While it's unclear why GM was allowed to carry over its losses, some experts insist that GM got preferential treatment.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/23/news/companies/gm_bailout/index.htm?cnn=yes&hpt=Sbin

i wonder how much more smoke and mirrors obama's admin is using to make gm look profitable....

i thought the issue was raising tax on corps and the rich...why is it here a good thing to let GM get a 14 billion dollar gift from the government? is this another bailout?
 
GM's sweetheart tax deal

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The U.S. Treasury is giving up $14 billion in tax revenue because of a sweetheart deal it's giving General Motors.

The automaker is expected to post its first profitable year since 2004 when it reports fourth-quarter results on Thursday. But GM (GM) won't have to worry about being hit with a big tax bill because billions in previous losses will provide shelter for years to come.

That break will reduce GM's U.S. tax bill by an estimated $14 billion in the coming years, and its global taxes by close to $19 billion, according to a company filing.

Companies typically get a break on future taxes because of past losses. But in most cases they lose that tax break during bankruptcy, because the losses are offset by the "income" the company receives from shedding its debt.

The power behind GM's throne
Since the company shed $30 billion in debt during bankruptcy, it should have wiped out most of the tax break. GM even warned it expected to lose those tax breaks shortly before filing for Chapter 11 protection.

But somehow, that never happened, and the automaker was able to keep most of its tax breaks, essentially receiving a $14 billion "gift" from the government.

While it's unclear why GM was allowed to carry over its losses, some experts insist that GM got preferential treatment.

http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/23/news/companies/gm_bailout/index.htm?cnn=yes&hpt=Sbin

i wonder how much more smoke and mirrors obama's admin is using to make gm look profitable....

i thought the issue was raising tax on corps and the rich...why is it here a good thing to let GM get a 14 billion dollar gift from the government? is this another bailout?

much as I hate the GM bailout, are you really calling loss carryover a gift?......
 
much as I hate the GM bailout, are you really calling loss carryover a gift?......

what? did you read the article? its about the taxes, not the lost carry over that most companies lose in bankruptcy and should have happened here. obama clearly gave GM preferential treatment to make them look more profitable and i think maybe another bailout...
 
what? did you read the article? its about the taxes, not the lost carry over that most companies lose in bankruptcy and should have happened here. obama clearly gave GM preferential treatment to make them look more profitable and i think maybe another bailout...

yes, it's about taxes.....and the reason stated for GM not paying tax is because of loss carryover.....that same provision is available for every corporation that had a previous loss.......THIS is not preferential treatment......
 
yes, it's about taxes.....and the reason stated for GM not paying tax is because of loss carryover.....that same provision is available for every corporation that had a previous loss.......THIS is not preferential treatment......

are you saying this information is false:

Since the company shed $30 billion in debt during bankruptcy, it should have wiped out most of the tax break. GM even warned it expected to lose those tax breaks shortly before filing for Chapter 11 protection

you keep ignoring the bankruptcy issue
 
no, I'm not....bailing them out of bankruptcy WAS a sweetheart deal.....tax loss carryover is simply the same thing every company gets.....

:palm:

why did you cut out half my post? you completely ignored the first half...not every company gets it, unless you're claiming that information is false...

are you saying this information is false:


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Since the company shed $30 billion in debt during bankruptcy, it should have wiped out most of the tax break. GM even warned it expected to lose those tax breaks shortly before filing for Chapter 11 protection
 
yes, it's about taxes.....and the reason stated for GM not paying tax is because of loss carryover.....that same provision is available for every corporation that had a previous loss.......THIS is not preferential treatment......
Except companies in bankruptcy do not get it because of shedding debt, which in all cases but this one is counted as profit. In this case they get to claim losses that other companies in Chapter 11 would not get to claim.
 
:palm:

why did you cut out half my post? you completely ignored the first half...not every company gets it, unless you're claiming that information is false...

since I have already stated several times that all companies get it, I didn't think it needed clarification......if you think all companies aren't allowed to use the loss carryover, yes your information is false....
 
Except companies in bankruptcy do not get it because of shedding debt, which in all cases but this one is counted as profit. In this case they get to claim losses that other companies in Chapter 11 would not get to claim.

so you are saying that they are specifically permitted by bankruptcy decree to deduct losses which they did not lose?.....
 
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