German liberals send 93 year old woman to prison for QUESTIONING THE HOLOCAUST

Text Drivers are Killers said:
This is what dictatorship look like ... Liberals hate free speech.
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There are no laws criminalizing Holocaust denial in the US or UK. If the old woman had gone there, she could have denied the Holocaust to her heart's content.

Strange, don't you think, when those countries were the victors who allegedly made up the story?

Your move, Textie. Let's have a Holocaust denial thread!
 
Germany again jails 93-year-old woman for Holocaust denial
Ursula Haverbeck sentenced to 12 months in prison, with judges saying they couldn’t suspend sentence because she showed no remorse

Haverbeck has repeatedly asserted that the Auschwitz death camp was just a work camp. In fact, historians say at least 1.1 million Jews were murdered there by the Nazis.

Haverbeck has already paid several fines and served at least 30 months for similar crimes.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/germany-again-jails-93-years-old-woman-for-holocaust-denial/


Germany’s Laws on Hate Speech, Nazi Propaganda & Holocaust Denial: An Explainer

The German penal code prohibits publicly denying the Holocaust and disseminating Nazi propaganda, both off- and online. This includes sharing images such as swastikas, wearing an SS uniform and making statements in support of Hitler.

It also places strict rules on how social media companies must moderate and report hate speech and threats. These hate-speech laws were tightened last year, after three far-right terror attacks in 2019 and early 2020 prompted German authorities to warn of increasing extremism.

Section 130
Section 130 of the German criminal code criminalizes certain types of hate speech.

The law bans incitement to hatred and insults that assault human dignity against people based on their racial, national, religious or ethnic background. In post-World War II Germany, it has been used to prosecute racist and antisemitic threats and slurs, and it carries a sentence of up to five years in prison.

Section 130 did not always target racism and antisemitism. The law dates back to the creation of the German criminal code in 1871 and originally focused on incitement of class warfare as a response to the spread of Communism, Kahn said. Following a wave of scandals revealing the Nazi pasts of West German public officials in the 1950s, the law was amended to target neo-Nazi incitement.

“It’s only a post-World War II understanding that says incitement includes saying things about Jews,” said Jonathan Bush, a Columbia Law School professor who has studied international law relating to the Holocaust.



https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/...hate-speech-nazi-propaganda-holocaust-denial/
 
archives said:
And a few other headlines from “text’s” source:

“A drunken man woke up in the middle of the night to pee and discovered that he was buried in a closet”

“Oliver Pocher pulls baking powder through his nose - paramedics have to intervene”

"I foresaw great events in the world thanks to an encounter with an alien who passed me a cosmic code"
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Seriously shut the fuck up Arsecheese!! Are you going to rubbish the Times of Israel as well

https://www.timesofisrael.com/germany-again-jails-93-years-old-woman-for-holocaust-denial/
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
The nazis in the german govt have won again. They have destroyed free speech with policies like this.
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It is interesting that Texting Driver supports the Nazis, and denies the Holocaust, but does not have the language to defend the Nazis without calling those who oppose the Nazis the word they oppose.

It would be like if he had to call the Democrats Republicans, because the Republican Party was so completely discredited in our language. The Nazis have been so completely discredited in our language, Texting Driver is forced to accuse others of being what he supports. It is odd how that works.

I am going to add that Nazism has been discredited for a good reason. It really did the Holocaust, and many other severe crimes against humanity.
 
Text Drivers are Killers said:
How you gonna prove that?
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There is a game show in the UK called Countdown. I like the version where comedians play the game show, which is called Cats Do Countdown. I was trying to look up who was on that, when I looked up who created Countdown. One of the two people who created Countdown was Marcel Stellman.

At this point you may ask what does any of this have to do with the Holocaust?

Stellman was born in 1925 to a Jewish Belgium father, and a Jewish Scottish mother. His family lived in Belgium during the German invasion. He and his mother got out, but five of his older siblings died in the Holocaust. You do not kill millions of Europeans without leaving evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Stellman
 
Walt said:
There is a game show in the UK called Countdown. I like the version where comedians play the game show, which is called Cats Do Countdown. I was trying to look up who was on that, when I looked up who created Countdown. One of the two people who created Countdown was Marcel Stellman.

At this point you may ask what does any of this have to do with the Holocaust?

Stellman was born in 1925 to a Jewish Belgium father, and a Jewish Scottish mother. His family lived in Belgium during the German invasion. He and his mother got out, but five of his older siblings died in the Holocaust. You do not kill millions of Europeans without leaving evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Stellman
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What does any of this have to do with the Holocaust, Walter?
 
Earl said:
What does any of this have to do with the Holocaust, Walter?
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There is a trick educated people use to get to information deeper in writing. We skip to the end. So the first paragraph says how I randomly came across Marcel Stellman. The middle paragraph has, "At this point you may ask what does any of this have to do with the Holocaust?" The last paragraph says that he lost five of his older siblings in the Holocaust.

The Holocaust was real. There are millions of people who lost relatives in the Holocaust. It is undeniable.

I know Earl is not reading this anymore... Whatever.
 
Walt said:
There is a trick educated people use to get to information deeper in writing. We skip to the end. So the first paragraph says how I randomly came across Marcel Stellman. The middle paragraph has, "At this point you may ask what does any of this have to do with the Holocaust?" The last paragraph says that he lost five of his older siblings in the Holocaust.

The Holocaust was real. There are millions of people who lost relatives in the Holocaust. It is undeniable.

I know Earl is not reading this anymore... Whatever.
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Wrong, Walter but the OP describes a current event.

You pick one (1) event from nearly eighty (80) years ago as your response.

My eyes do often glaze over when I read your responses.

An educated person would question a one year jail; sentence for expressing her opinion.
 
Earl said:
Wrong, Walter but the OP describes a current event.

You pick one (1) event from nearly eighty (80) years ago as your response.

My eyes do glaze over when I read your responses.
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You also have trouble following a thread. Texting Driver claimed that the Holocaust was a hoax; his Holocaust denial is a current event. Evince pointed out that a lot people lost relatives in the Holocaust. Texting Driver asked, "how you gonna prove that?", and then I pointed out one famous person who lost 5 of their siblings in the Holocaust.
 
Story probably is true. Holocaust denial is a crime in Germany. It's a crime in many other European countries. German law, not "liberals", therefore, is doing the sending to prison.
 
Walt said:
You also have trouble following a thread. Texting Driver claimed that the Holocaust was a hoax; his Holocaust denial is a current event. Evince pointed out that a lot people lost relatives in the Holocaust. Texting Driver asked, "how you gonna prove that?", and then I pointed out one famous person who lost 5 of their siblings in the Holocaust.
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It appears that you are the one who has trouble following a thread, Walter.

The OP concerns a 93 year old woman getting a one (1) year jail sentence for expressing her opinion.

A bit harsh, right, Walter?
 
Walt said:
There is a game show in the UK called Countdown. I like the version where comedians play the game show, which is called Cats Do Countdown. I was trying to look up who was on that, when I looked up who created Countdown. One of the two people who created Countdown was Marcel Stellman.

At this point you may ask what does any of this have to do with the Holocaust?

Stellman was born in 1925 to a Jewish Belgium father, and a Jewish Scottish mother. His family lived in Belgium during the German invasion. He and his mother got out, but five of his older siblings died in the Holocaust. You do not kill millions of Europeans without leaving evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcel_Stellman
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It's actually called Eight out of Ten Cats Does Countdown!

 
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