Gas down $1.58, give Obama credit?

bravo said:
6 months ???? actually within 6 minutes of taking office under the right circumstances....
Even the rumor of a president that wants a tax increase on oil companies, will cause the domestic price of gas to skyrocket.....overnight
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That was to your second point, not your first.
 
Jarod said:
June to June numbers are down $1.58. I know you dont want to admit it, I know it makes your world crumble... but its true!
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So essentially you are going to continue posting the point that we all agree on and act like someone is disagreeing with you on it?

Let me guess, this is your feeble attempt to divert from the point that everyone else on the board is mocking you for?
 
Jarod said:
I do belive that fear of regulation, investigations into price gouging, and a government responsive to anger of its people affects the price of oil.
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I bet you believe in UFO's too.

Here's a tip, most economist are going to say the global slowdown is repsonsible for the drop in price Not the chosen one.:cool:
 
Superfreak said:
So essentially you are going to continue posting the point that we all agree on and act like someone is disagreeing with you on it?

Let me guess, this is your feeble attempt to divert from the point that everyone else on the board is mocking you for?
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Everyone is mocking? I see its everyone, not just the cons who want so badly to belive its not true!
 
Topspin said:
I bet you believe in UFO's too.

Here's a tip, most economist are going to say the global slowdown is repsonsible for the drop in price Not the chosen one.:cool:
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I dont disagree with your post, except the part about UFO's.
 
Jarod said:
I dont belive President Obama's policies have effected the economy yet, just as I dont belive his policies have affected the price of oil, yet.
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Well Jarod if it helps you sleep better at night Obama is not going to be judged by voters for another 3 1/2 years and Congress for another 1 1/2. As BAC even agreed when Obama and others in his administration came and said there would be immediate benefits or we would see immediate results from the stimulus package it opened himself up to a) receiving acolades if the economy turned around quickly or b) facing criticism if it didn't.

Is all the criticism at him warranted? No. But if you want to be the top man and you put yourself out there like he did with his pronouncements you're going to get heat if things don't go as hoped or planned.
 
Topspin said:
I bet you believe in UFO's too.

Here's a tip, most economist are going to say the global slowdown is repsonsible for the drop in price Not the chosen one.:cool:
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Here is a tip, most economist are going to say the global slowdown is not a result of President Obama's first 6 months in office.
 
cawacko said:
Well Jarod if it helps you sleep better at night Obama is not going to be judged by voters for another 3 1/2 years and Congress for another 1 1/2. As BAC even agreed when Obama and others in his administration came and said there would be immediate benefits or we would see immediate results from the stimulus package it opened himself up to a) receiving acolades if the economy turned around quickly or b) facing criticism if it didn't.

Is all the criticism at him warranted? No. But if you want to be the top man and you put yourself out there like he did with his pronouncements you're going to get heat if things don't go as hoped or planned.
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I do admire him for taking the heat, don't you, he doesn't try to side step his responsibility as others have done!
 
cawacko said:
Well Jarod if it helps you sleep better at night Obama is not going to be judged by voters for another 3 1/2 years and Congress for another 1 1/2. As BAC even agreed when Obama and others in his administration came and said there would be immediate benefits or we would see immediate results from the stimulus package it opened himself up to a) receiving acolades if the economy turned around quickly or b) facing criticism if it didn't.

Is all the criticism at him warranted? No. But if you want to be the top man and you put yourself out there like he did with his pronouncements you're going to get heat if things don't go as hoped or planned.
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Good post, well thought out and not some silly retort.

1. When did President Obama say there would be immediate benefits?

2. By some measures there have been immediate benefits... The rate of increased unemployment is slowing dramatically.
 
bravo said:
http://gasbuddy.com/gb_retail_price_chart.aspx

Bush left office about 1/28- 1.84 gal.....and by June 26 the price of gas was about 2.59 gal......

Now tell me again about gas prices
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Gas prices are only comparable to points at the same time in the corresponding year for any accuracy. The cost of oil fluculates during the year so prices have historically always been higher in June than in January. You cant get "real" comparison when you compare January numbers to June numbers. It would be like not accounting for inflation when you compare the price of a hamburger in 1956 to the price of one today.

Its not really that complex, really just basic economics.
 
they fluctuate mildly due to the summer driving season. To hold that as some cosntant factor is lame.
The gigantic drop in crude price is the reason for the fall in gas price not Obama or Bush.
 
Jarod said:
Good post, well thought out and not some silly retort.

1. When did President Obama say there would be immediate benefits?

2. By some measures there have been immediate benefits... The rate of increased unemployment is slowing dramatically.
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Just imagine...when nobody has a job the rate of increased unemployment will be ZERO......thats great liberal spin...faulty reasoning, but good spin
 
Jarod said:
Gas prices are only comparable to points at the same time in the corresponding year for any accuracy. The cost of oil fluculates during the year so prices have historically always been higher in June than in January. You cant get "real" comparison when you compare January numbers to June numbers. It would be like not accounting for inflation when you compare the price of a hamburger in 1956 to the price of one today.

Its not really that complex, really just basic economics.
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So the point of your entire thread about gas prices is.....you have no point
 
bravo said:
Just imagine...when nobody has a job the rate of increased unemployment will be ZERO......thats great liberal spin...faulty reasoning, but good spin
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When will that be?

Basic economics, a flat or zero increase in the rate of unemployment is worse than decrease in the rate of unemployment.
 
Jarod said:
Everyone is mocking? I see its everyone, not just the cons who want so badly to belive its not true!
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yes you idiot, everyone is mocking you.... again, not for the year over year number, but for proclaiming gas prices went down while Obama was President. No matter how hard you try to spin your way out of it, that was your argument and that is why people mock you for it.
 
Jarod said:
When will that be?

Basic economics, a flat or zero increase in the rate of unemployment is worse than decrease in the rate of unemployment.
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No shit....your level of intelligence is astounding....your logical reasoning, just awesome.....you got me dude....I say "uncle"....:cof1:
 
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