Fury against Bernie Sanders Growing in ClintonWorld

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Nevada’s state convention last weekend but saying they believe Sanders will ultimately do the right thing by helping to unite the Democratic Party.

Behind the scenes, however, they are seething that statements by the Vermont senator are just making matters works by further alienating his supporters from Clinton.

The continued combat on the left is also complicating Clinton’s efforts to fully turn her attention to Donald Trump

, who is reveling in the Democratic feuding.

“This is the worst case scenario and the one people feared the most,” said one Clinton ally and former Clinton aide.

“Unfortunately, he’s choosing the path of burning down the house,” the ally said. “He continues with character attacks against Hillary. He continues with calling the Democratic Party corrupt and he's not only risks damaging Hillary Clinton

nd the Democratic party but he's currently doing it.

Clinton allies say Sanders is only piling on by insisting that Clinton join him for a debate ahead of California's primary on June 7. The debate would be aired on Fox News, a network Clinton supporters see as fanning the flames between Sanders supporters and Clinton.

A second ally said Sanders should stop criticizing the party and the front-runner’s supporters even if he continues to fight for delegates through six state contests on June 7.

“It’s inappropriate at this point and I hate to tell him, it’s not helping him in the long run. It’s only hurting her,” the ally said. “The Republican Party has their nominee and he’s free and clear of his Republican opponents and is taking shots at Hillary. We need to move closer to that process, and he’s not helping."

In an interview on CNN Thursday, Clinton projected extreme confidence that she will be her party’s nominee. The remarks could be read as a signal to Sanders that he should get real with his supporters about his chances of winning the nomination.

“I will be the nominee for my party, Chris,” the former first lady told CNN's Chris Cuomo. “That is already done in effect. There is no way I won't be.”

She added that Sanders “has to do his part to unify the party.”

“He said the other day that he'll do everything possible to defeat Donald Trump. He said he'd work seven days a week. I take him at his word,” Clinton said. “I think the threat that Donald Trump poses is so dramatic to our country, to our democracy and our economy that I certainly expect Sen. Sanders to do what he said he would.”

Clinton currently leads Sanders by 274 pledged delegates, according to the Associated Press’s totals. Including superdelegates, the party officials who have their own votes in the contest, Clinton is 760 delegates ahead of Sanders and just 90 delegates away from the 2,383 needed to clinch the party's presidential nomination.

Sanders has argued that he can convince superdelegates to switch their loyalty, and that he could cut into Clinton’s lead with pledged delegates by winning California. But she only needs to win 10 percent of the remaining delegates to secure the nomination.

Clinton's comments to CNN led to a fiery response from the Sanders campaign.

“In the past three weeks voters in Indiana, West Virginia and Oregon respectfully disagreed with Secretary Clinton," campaign spokesman Michael Briggs said in a statement. "We expect voters in the remaining eight contests also will disagree."
Supporters of the Vermont Independent have argued the primary has been stolen from their candidate because of the use of superdelegates and closed state contests at which only Democrats may vote.

Some Democratic officials have criticized Sanders for feeding those sentiments, which have frustrated Clinton supporters given their candidate's lead in virtually every metric in the race.

“To his supporters who are grousing about the fact that everything is rigged – it’s not rigged,” Sen. Barbara Boxer

(D-Calif.), who was booed off the stage by Sanders supporters at the Nevada convention, said on CNN on Wednesday.

“You know, we’ve had elections. Hillary has more votes,” Boxer continued. “And Hillary has more delegates, not even counting superdelegates. So I think we need to look at…what is at stake here. And let me tell you what’s at stake here, everything. Everything that we believe in.”

Several polls this week have forecast a competitive general election fight between Clinton and Trump, unnerving some Democrats.

“He needs to stop doing this or Donald Trump will win,” the Clinton ally said. “While he's intentions started off in the best of ways, he’s shown he has no loyalty to the Democratic Party. One hopes he understands that his actions could result in giving Donald Trump the nuclear launch codes.”

The polls, however, could give more ammunition to Sanders, who argues he would be a stronger candidate in the fall against Trump.

"With almost every national and state poll showing Sen. Sanders doing much, much better than Secretary Clinton against Donald Trump, it is clear that millions of Americans have growing doubts about the Clinton campaign," Briggs said in Thursday's statement.

Democrats continue to point out that the party survived a bitter 2008 primary between Clinton and Barack Obama

Seth Bringman, who served as a spokesman for the Ready for Hillary super-PAC said he believes the party will inevitably come together.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ain_checkpoint-libya-820pm-top:homepage/story
 
...stand down, shut up, don't do nothing..
Bernie's winning everything or tied in Ky..let the people vote..
 
that the majority of voters don't like Hillary?.....

More like they feel obligated to vote for her. It's anecdotal, by I know very few energetic Hillary supporters but quite a few enthusiastic Bernie and Trump supporters. I've wondered if the poll numbers reflect the enthusiasm level or not. It's one thing to tell the pollster you're going to vote for Hillary and another thing to show up in November and do it.

It's also interesting that the republicans have smacked down their branch of the establishment but the democrats are still saddled with Hillary, who is the veritable epitome of establishment politics.

It's going to be 1968 all over again for them if Bernie drags this out much longer. They know it, hence the angst and anger.

I think it's quite entertaining.
 
It wasn’t long before things took a turn. At 9:30, a full half hour before registration closed, Lange read the results of ballots that had been passed out to early arriving conventioneers regarding temporary rules for the convention, rules which would discount the results of the county convention (the second tier of the caucus process, where Bernie had won more delegates), rules which would require that all votes at the convention be decided by voice alone, and which ruled that the decision of the chairperson would be final. These temporary rules had passed by flying colors, which did not sit well with the Bernie delegates, many of whom had not been given ballots. Suddenly half the people of the room were on their feet, shouting “No!!!!” My son and I jumped to our feet as well, added our voices to the chorus. It felt good, all those voices of resistance vibrating through my body. I started to feel less like a cloud. I felt myself drop back into my body, surrounded by all these bodies yelling “No!”, feeling alive inside my skin.

Then people began to chant “Recount” and my son and I joined this call, too, throats aching, adrenaline coursing. Lange took the temporary rules to a voice vote. A hearty round of “Aye”s rose up from the Hillary side of the room, but when it was time for the “Nay” vote, the response was so loud, I felt it shake my every cell, felt it alter my heartbeat. The room was explosive with “Nay”s, roaring with it, and yet Lange decided in favor of the “Aye”s, which only set off more yelling. I thought about my dad, how once when I was a kid, I wanted to do something and my sister didn’t, and he said “If someone says no, you need to listen.” Lange definitely didn’t listen to all the “no”s in the room.


it is clear that she ignored true democratic process throughout the day and should be taken to task in a civil, political, way.

From reports from my husband and other conventioneers, and from my own firsthand experience as my son and I wandered in and out of the hall as the day progressed, it appeared that Lange didn’t listen to much of anything the Bernie delegates had to say; she appeared not to count the votes from that side of the room; she ejected dozens of Bernie delegates who didn’t have a chance to defend their eligibility, and who, if they were allowed to stay, would have given Bernie more delegates than Hillary; she didn’t allow for a “minority report”; she cut off microphones when people challenged her.

When I read news stories about what happened that day, I don’t recognize much of what is being reported—while there was plenty of chaos, I witnessed no violence (nor did my husband or anyone else I knew at the convention). Bernie supporters were not trying to change the rules, as some journalists reported: they were justifiably outraged when the chairperson changed the rules without a majority vote, and then more outraged when, later, after a motion for a delegate recount, she shut the whole convention down with a pound of the gavel and threatened arrest to anyone who stayed in the room. So many of the news reports of the convention feel like gaslighting in that regard—stories trying to make it sound as if the Bernie delegates were a bunch of crazy nutjobs, when all they wanted was to be heard and counted.

http://www.salon.com/2016/05/20/i_w...vada_this_is_what_the_medias_not_telling_you/
I watched Hillary Clinton’s forces swipe Nevada: This is what the media’s not telling you
 
Sanders can beat Trump. Billary can't. She even annoys women more than Trump does.
 
She cant close. Why should he just quit ?
If she's not willing to fight for the nomination what makes any dem think she will fight for them ?
If anyone needs to walk away it's her.
 
it's the usual Clintonian "why are you doing this to me?". This time with the party apparatchiks all bent out of shape because her march to inevitability
is being challenged.

They wanted the enthusiasm of the sanders campaign when it was convenient ( unlike Hillary's malaise') -but now that they've used that up they want him to go away but leave the enthusiastic supporters. we don't play that.

Look at the crap they pulled in Nv. then Boxer has the temerity to blame it on Bernie for not reigning in his delegates.
They don't give a fuck about anything else but serving Hillary -which is their furtherance of power.

Good on Bernie to serve the will of the people instead. The Democrats are stale and bankrupt of ideas.
 
Sanders can beat Trump. Billary can't. She even annoys women more than Trump does.

I agree.

If the Democrat Party were smart - they would nominate Sanders not Mrs. Clinton. He would be a much stronger candidate against Trump.

I could not imagine a worst candidate for this election cycle than a Mrs. Clinton.
 
It's going to be Clinton..there is no way the supers are going to flip..the problem lies in the process that got us here
and the corporate shill press that promulgated her inevitability from Day 1. (self-fulfilling prophecy)..

Despite all that, Sander caught fire and Hillary could only play to her base, and the closed primary..

Lots of lessons to be learned her ( like every 4 years when these flaws show up).

Or simply put: "It's a rigged election/process/economy (etc.)" serving the powerful, and not the people.
 
We'll be lucky to survive four years of Trump OR Billary.




‘Clinton as president is danger to world peace’ – far-right French leader Le Pen to RT

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https://www.rt.com/usa/343716-le-pen-clinton-president-danger/
 
It's going to be Clinton..there is no way the supers are going to flip..the problem lies in the process that got us here
and the corporate shill press that promulgated her inevitability from Day 1. (self-fulfilling prophecy)..

Despite all that, Sander caught fire and Hillary could only play to her base, and the closed primary..

Lots of lessons to be learned her ( like every 4 years when these flaws show up).

Or simply put: "It's a rigged election/process/economy (etc.)" serving the powerful, and not the people.

Nicely put and I completely agree. If it were not for the rigged system (super delegates, closed primaries) that favor the Establishment candidate, Mr. Sanders would have probably won this primary. And should have won - because he more accurately reflects the views of the people. Not the corporate interests in Washington.
 
What amuses me is the same peole whining about sanders loved it that Kasic stayed in the race and helped put Ted cruz away they loved it when eleven people were on stage squabbling at each other
 
Keep telling yourselves what you want, especially if it helps you sleep... but HRC waiting until after California to drop out when she ran against BHO, and many claimed her supporters would never back BHO.
 
Keep telling yourselves what you want, especially if it helps you sleep... but HRC waiting until after California to drop out when she ran against BHO, and many claimed her supporters would never back BHO.

And today many conservatives claim they will never back the Teflon Don, but I suspect that they will, Counselor.
 
Keep telling yourselves what you want, especially if it helps you sleep... but HRC waiting until after California to drop out when she ran against BHO, and many claimed her supporters would never back BHO.

there are far more differences between Hillary and Bernie than there were between Hillary and Obama......
 
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