“Frequent shootings put US mass killings on a record pace”

archives said:
Never, don’t need a gun to defend myself, nor has the occasion to defend myself presented itself that often, remember, I live in a gun restricted area, it’s safer
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Poor anchovies,

neighbor-has-no-guns.jpg
 
archives said:
No, rather where I live there are less of both guns and gun owners, the later by choice, and consequently, less gun violence and death, common sense, as the world shows us, the more guns, the more gun violence
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so your neighborhood is a target rich zone with little means to protect it. cool deal. you should advertise that. because less guns equals more unarmed targets.

archives said:
As I’ve explained before, the people living are snowbirds, their back in the Spring, and the others are those as the song implies, those that can’t make it here. And anyone can move here, but the gun huggers have to leave their guns behind
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and if they choose NOT to leave them behind?
 
archives said:
Never, don’t need a gun to defend myself, nor has the occasion to defend myself presented itself that often, remember, I live in a gun restricted area, it’s safer
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chicago is a gun restricted area how safe are they? NYC is a gun restricted area, how safe are they? your gun restricted area does not make you safer, it makes you more vulnerable.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
so your neighborhood is a target rich zone with little means to protect it. cool deal. you should advertise that. because less guns equals more unarmed targets.


and if they choose NOT to leave them behind?
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And less gun violence, the fact

They’ll face the legal consequences
 
SmarterthanYou said:
chicago is a gun restricted area how safe are they? NYC is a gun restricted area, how safe are they? your gun restricted area does not make you safer, it makes you more vulnerable.
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Chicago is gun restricted with Indiana a twenty minute drive away, and entrepreneur with a car trunk can make a fortune. And NYC is one of the safest cities in America:

“New York City Ranks 12th On 2021 List Of World's Safest Cities.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/worlds-safest-cities-travel-nyc/

”New York City Is a Lot Safer Than Small-Town America”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...a87e3c-e651-11ec-a422-11bbb91db30b_story.html

“NYC ranked safest city in the United States”
https://www.tripadvisor.co.nz/ShowT...the_United_States-New_York_City_New_York.html

”America’s 15 Safest (And Most Dangerous) Cities For 2023”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurab...-dangerous-cities-in-the-us-crime-in-america/

And if the gun loving Southern States would do something about the Iron pipeline New York would be even safer
 
SmarterthanYou said:
tomato, tomahto..........your idea of 'common sense' and others are not going to be the same, so I ask you....what makes YOUR idea of common sense the right one instead of mine?
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Common sense can be a combo of conventional wisdom, and basic math.

For instance - I don't understand how anyone could oppose background checks, which the vast majority of Americans support. And mathematically, we can easily surmise that having a background check will likely have a positive effect on reducing gun violence, and the more stringent & thorough that check is, the better the results.
 
archives said:
Chicago is gun restricted with Indiana a twenty minute drive away, and entrepreneur with a car trunk can make a fortune.
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I used to live near chicago. finding a gun was just as hard then as it is now.........which is to say not that fucking easy. Indiana follows the same federal laws for selling firearms as Illinois AND illinois residents cannot buy handguns in Indiana. your theory if almost all myth.

archives said:
And NYC is one of the safest cities in America:

“New York City Ranks 12th On 2021 List Of World's Safest Cities.”
https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/worlds-safest-cities-travel-nyc/

”New York City Is a Lot Safer Than Small-Town America”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...a87e3c-e651-11ec-a422-11bbb91db30b_story.html

“NYC ranked safest city in the United States”
https://www.tripadvisor.co.nz/ShowT...the_United_States-New_York_City_New_York.html

”America’s 15 Safest (And Most Dangerous) Cities For 2023”
https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurab...-dangerous-cities-in-the-us-crime-in-america/
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Overall crime in NYC is up 23.5% this year

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/21/us/nyc-crime-statistics-2022/index.html

archives said:
And if the gun loving Southern States would do something about the Iron pipeline New York would be even safer
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iron pipeline LOL a myth unless you're talking about gunrunning by obama
 
BartenderElite said:
Common sense can be a combo of conventional wisdom, and basic math.

For instance - I don't understand how anyone could oppose background checks, which the vast majority of Americans support. And mathematically, we can easily surmise that having a background check will likely have a positive effect on reducing gun violence, and the more stringent & thorough that check is, the better the results.
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I can easily oppose background checks for the same reason you would oppose poll taxes...........it's a form of prior restraint as well as being a means of eliminating a right for most citizens.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I can easily oppose background checks for the same reason you would oppose poll taxes...........it's a form of prior restraint as well as being a means of eliminating a right for most citizens.
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Background checks don't eliminate the right for most - just some, who should not have guns.

I assume you wouldn't agree w/ the premise that every adult American should be allowed to own a gun, given mental health issues, criminal histories, et al.?
 
BartenderElite said:
Background checks don't eliminate the right for most - just some, who should not have guns.
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for now, but later the requirements can just be rewritten or redefined to include things that would eliminate it for most. imagine being prohibited from owning a firearm because you got a ticket for careless and reckless driving.

BartenderElite said:
I assume you wouldn't agree w/ the premise that every adult American should be allowed to own a gun, given mental health issues, criminal histories, et al.?
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if a person can't be trusted in public with a weapon, they can't be trusted in public.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
for now, but later the requirements can just be rewritten or redefined to include things that would eliminate it for most. imagine being prohibited from owning a firearm because you got a ticket for careless and reckless driving.


if a person can't be trusted in public with a weapon, they can't be trusted in public.
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I'm not that interested in what might happen. I think that's a poor rationale for opposing common sense measures. "Slippery slope" arguments could be applied to many areas of the law.

How would you propose we keep everyone w/ mental health issues and ex convicts separate from the public?
 
BartenderElite said:
I'm not that interested in what might happen. I think that's a poor rationale for opposing common sense measures. "Slippery slope" arguments could be applied to many areas of the law.
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nobody seemed really interested in roe v wade being overturned any time soon either, but look what happened. the problem with the whole 'slippery slope' being a fallacy argument is that it's all too likely to become true.

BartenderElite said:
How would you propose we keep everyone w/ mental health issues and ex convicts separate from the public?
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we call them psych facilities, insane asylums, prisons...........and for those that have no desire to become productive members of society, death penalty
 
archives said:
“LOS ANGELES (AP) — The U.S. is setting a record pace for mass killings in 2023, replaying the horror on a loop roughly once a week so far this year. The carnage has taken 88 lives in 17 mass killings over 111 days. Each time, the killers wielded firearms”

“The bloodshed represents just a fraction of the fatal violence that occurs in the U.S. annually. Yet mass killings are happening with staggering frequency this year: An average of once every 6.53 days, according to an analysis of The AP/USA Today data.”

“Experts and advocates decry the proliferation of guns in the U.S. in recent years”

“We have to know that this isn’t the way to live,” said John Feinblatt, president of Everytown for Gun Safety. “We don’t have to live this way. And we cannot live in a country with an agenda of guns everywhere, every place and every time.”

https://apnews.com/article/mass-killings-record-pace-2023-d685a6cd67e0f449f3f9d1d8713d451c

I know this is a useless topic in forums as this given the gun huggers desire to live “in a country with an agenda of guns everywhere, every place and every time,” but the reality happens so often now, it can not be completely ignored

If more guns actually made us safer, it would follow given that the the sheer number of guns already out there in America, we should be the safest developed nation in the world, but in fact, the opposite is true
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Fascinating how these always seem to accelerate with Democrats in charge.

If it were about the sheer number of guns, there would be far more mass shootings halfwit. More black kids are murdered in Democratic controlled urban shit holes than all the mass shootings combined.

Yet you lying leftist halfwits don't seem to give a shit and like soft on crime DAs and defunding the police.
 
NiftyNiblick said:
Why are we still talking about shootings in America?
It's a totally unnecessary subject for discussion.

As long as there are Americans in America,
there will be shootings in America.

Americans have to eat, sleep, and cap each other's asses in order to live.
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Leftist morons always think America is the only place shootings occur.
 
Oops.
Bullshit Blob quoted me,
according to my notifications,
and is babbling about something stupid thing or or another.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
I used to live near chicago. finding a gun was just as hard then as it is now.........which is to say not that fucking easy. Indiana follows the same federal laws for selling firearms as Illinois AND illinois residents cannot buy handguns in Indiana. your theory if almost all myth.



Overall crime in NYC is up 23.5% this year

https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/21/us/nyc-crime-statistics-2022/index.html



iron pipeline LOL a myth unless you're talking about gunrunning by obama
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Strawman purchases, and Indiana does not require any kind of check on private sales, the number of guns that can be purchased in private sales, and they do not keep any required of lost or stolen guns. As I said, any entrepreneur with a car trunk can make a fortune

And yet its crime rate is below the national average ( https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/crime-rate-by-state

Iron pipeline is anything but a myth, in NY, near 75% of all crime guns found are from out of State, and that is considering guns they can trace (https://targettrafficking.ag.ny.gov/#part2)
 
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