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SmarterthanYou said:
but what you want to do is take away the check on government power from the people. that is what makes you look moronic.
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From the lowest of society, sure.
You think someone with an advanced education that's self employed will sit on a jury for even a few days? Never. I show up for mandatory jury duty , I'm interviewed, and I'll say whatever it takes to get back to my business ASAP.
l'll take my chances on a professional tribunal that understands the law before I rely on a jury packed with racists (and that goes both ways) on gubmint dole looking to make a quick buck on a book deal.
 
aloysious said:
From the lowest of society, sure.
You think someone with an advanced education that's self employed will sit on a jury for even a few days? Never. I show up for mandatory jury duty , I'm interviewed, and I'll say whatever it takes to get back to my business ASAP.
l'll take my chances on a professional tribunal that understands the law before I rely on a jury packed with racists (and that goes both ways) on gubmint dole looking to make a quick buck on a book deal.
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How many cases are there were the jury is sequestered for over six months? There will not be another OJ trial. That was a once in a lifetime event.
 
aloysious said:
From the lowest of society, sure.
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so the whole 'jury of your peers' is not your cup of tea?

aloysious said:
You think someone with an advanced education that's self employed will sit on a jury for even a few days? Never. I show up for mandatory jury duty , I'm interviewed, and I'll say whatever it takes to get back to my business ASAP.
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so what you really want is a professionally paid juror to take you place so you don't have to do a civic duty. this makes you the problem, not the solution.

aloysious said:
l'll take my chances on a professional tribunal that understands the law before I rely on a jury packed with racists (and that goes both ways) on gubmint dole looking to make a quick buck on a book deal.
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again, this makes you the problem, not the solution.
 
cawacko said:
interesting. I remember that trial but didn't follow it. Stupid question, Was that trial in the U.S. or overseas?
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florida. tried for murdering her toddler daughter. acquitted by a jury based upon the instructions of the judge in the trial and the publics demand for a quick trial that placed the prosecutor in a bad position with no case. but it seems that aloysius would have preferred a trial decided by emotions rather than facts and law.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
florida. tried for murdering her toddler daughter. acquitted by a jury based upon the instructions of the judge in the trial and the publics demand for a quick trial that placed the prosecutor in a bad position with no case. but it seems that aloysius would have preferred a trial decided by emotions rather than facts and law.
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ohhhh yeah, got it confused with amanda knox. my bad
 
aloysious said:
Yes. The gubmint righted an obvious wrong. Doesn't often happen but when the wrong is egregious it needs to be corrected. Who else to do it besides a vigilante?
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what other parts of the constitution would you like to do away with then? why have courts? just let the police decide who is guilty and punish them the way you like? maybe we should do away with congress and let the president become temporary king?
 
aloysious said:
Yes. The gubmint righted an obvious wrong. Doesn't often happen but when the wrong is egregious it needs to be corrected. Who else to do it besides a vigilante?
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What you're asking for is about 180 degrees from what a Libertarian believes. I don't want a vigilante gov't. You don't think they would abuse that power? You're missing the forest for the trees.
 
SmarterthanYou said:
. what other parts of the constitution would you like to do away with then?
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The second amendment. Gun ownership is a responsibility not a right, IMO. That's where I part from the typical libertarian.
SmarterthanYou said:
why have courts? just let the police decide who is guilty and punish them the way you like?
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Police don't have the required education. Courts are needed as a venue for tribunals.
SmarterthanYou said:
maybe we should do away with congress and let the president become temporary king?
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Better yet do away with congress and president and anoint me as king.
 
cawacko said:
What you're asking for is about 180 degrees from what a Libertarian believes. I don't want a vigilante gov't. You don't think they would abuse that power? You're missing the forest for the trees.
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You're right about the libertarian thing. I'm not lockstep with all the platform. Just most of it. I didn't say a vigilante govt. Just a vigilante if not the gubmint. (Google Bernard Goetz)
 
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